Some Of The Old Timers Weigh In...... "MARCIANO"

[gest12645]

Ali> Marciano
Many other fighters > Marciano

He was good but there were better fighters than him. He was the best in his time but wouldnt last vs later generation fighters like Holmes, Foreman, Lewis and Tyson.

Today ,he would lose to the Klitschkos , probably to Haye but beats guys like Arreola, Adamek, Povetkin.

Theres my 2 cents

[miron_lang]

If MafiaJoey = MilMascaras then being 32 is a big lie



Mil Mascaras is at least 70 years old

[IamInuit]

Marciano simply wrecked the division. I'm not sure one can ask for any more than that of a fighter. When he retired? It took the sport 18 months to find/develop the next guy in Floyd Patterson and to win acclaim he had to beat a guy the Rock had already beaten in Archie Moore.

Give me a break. He fought albeit not his fault in the weakest hev division in the history of the sport. He's the definition of a product of his environment. Get real people. He's Holmes with less to choose from and two of them over the hill almost kicked his head in. And Lastarza 1 give me a break.

He never wrecked anything off paper.

[Andre]

Tough prick,different breed of hungry people back then, they dont build them like that any more. I question a few of his hits though, looks like some were crunched in right off the bottom off his wrist bone on the un padded side of the glove, but they were tough slug matches.

[marbleheadmaui]

Marciano simply wrecked the division. I'm not sure one can ask for any more than that of a fighter. When he retired? It took the sport 18 months to find/develop the next guy in Floyd Patterson and to win acclaim he had to beat a guy the Rock had already beaten in Archie Moore.

Give me a break. He fought albeit not his fault in the weakest hev division in the history of the sport. He's the definition of a product of his environment. Get real people. He's Holmes with less to choose from and two of them over the hill almost kicked his head in. And Lastarza 1 give me a break.

He never wrecked anything off paper.

He did everything he could have done. That is what we know. Everything else is guesswork.

[IamInuit]

Marciano simply wrecked the division. I'm not sure one can ask for any more than that of a fighter. When he retired? It took the sport 18 months to find/develop the next guy in Floyd Patterson and to win acclaim he had to beat a guy the Rock had already beaten in Archie Moore.

Give me a break. He fought albeit not his fault in the weakest hev division in the history of the sport. He's the definition of a product of his environment. Get real people. He's Holmes with less to choose from and two of them over the hill almost kicked his head in. And Lastarza 1 give me a break.

He never wrecked anything off paper.

He did everything he could have done. That is what we know. Everything else is guesswork.

Never said anything otherwise but with that, he does not match up in the least with Ali. Langford has a better shot and he was 5'6.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Marciano simply wrecked the division. I'm not sure one can ask for any more than that of a fighter. When he retired? It took the sport 18 months to find/develop the next guy in Floyd Patterson and to win acclaim he had to beat a guy the Rock had already beaten in Archie Moore.

Give me a break. He fought albeit not his fault in the weakest hev division in the history of the sport. He's the definition of a product of his environment. Get real people. He's Holmes with less to choose from and two of them over the hill almost kicked his head in. And Lastarza 1 give me a break.

He never wrecked anything off paper.

Can't disagree with this.

[mafiajoey]

If MafiaJoey = MilMascaras then being 32 is a big lie



Mil Mascaras is at least 70 years old

I don't understand Mil Mascaras? I'm Mafia Joey, been here since what 06 or so. Never joined more then once nor with a fake account. Trust me.... I was banned in the past. Saddo has my IP, after a long break I was sent an email inviting me back. Anyways apologies if I offended you a zillion times.

[miron_lang]

I don't understand Mil Mascaras? I'm Mafia Joey, been here since what 06 or so. Never joined more then once nor with a fake account. Trust me.... I was banned in the past. Saddo has my IP, after a long break I was sent an email inviting me back. Anyways apologies if I offended you a zillion times.

I see.

Sorry about that. I thought i read somewhere that you are mil. No apologies needed

[Beanflicker]

Anyone who thinks Marciano would beat Ali is batshit crazy.

[Mars_ax]

Marciano was the best HW of his era, fought the best fighters available during that time, and finished his career with a perfect 49-0, what more can you really ask of a HW champion?

It's possible Marciano gets beat by Ali, Holmes, Foreman or the bigger Heavyweights of the more modern era, but who cares, he did his thing.

BTW Joey, I think Pacquiao knocks Marciano out in about 3 rounds.

[IamInuit]

Marciano was the best HW of his era, fought the best fighters available during that time, and finished his career with a perfect 49-0, what more can you really ask of a HW champion?

It's possible Marciano gets beat by Ali, Holmes, Foreman or the bigger Heavyweights of the more modern era, but who cares, he did his thing.

BTW Joey, I think Pacquiao knocks Marciano out in about 3 rounds.

Nobody is denying that. This thread resurrects itself on countless forums every year at least once. I try to ignore them the best I can but they beat me down after a time. Marciano gets full marks for doing what he did at the time he did it. He's a folk hero and that's cool.

This notion that because of that or some condo sized computer Marciano beats Ali is border line lunacy. That's not a personal shot at anyone but it is one directed at the very premise.

[mafiajoey]

Marciano was the best HW of his era, fought the best fighters available during that time, and finished his career with a perfect 49-0, what more can you really ask of a HW champion?

It's possible Marciano gets beat by Ali, Holmes, Foreman or the bigger Heavyweights of the more modern era, but who cares, he did his thing.

BTW Joey, I think Pacquiao knocks Marciano out in about 3 rounds.

I agree.... maybe even round 1? (:

[marbleheadmaui]

Ali> Marciano
Many other fighters > Marciano

He was good but there were better fighters than him. He was the best in his time but wouldnt last vs later generation fighters like Holmes, Foreman, Lewis and Tyson.

Today ,he would lose to the Klitschkos , probably to Haye but beats guys like Arreola, Adamek, Povetkin.

Theres my 2 cents

David Haye? You're kidding right? Marciano would have Haye curled up in the fetal position sobbing in five rounds.

[FinitoElDinamita]

mafiajoey is Mils Mascaras?? If so, did he used to post on BOXREC because I remember Mascaras as being a good poster who knew alot about Mexican fighters..