Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
''When the truth comes home, bullshit goes out the window''... Love that!

Also, what he says about todays young guys makes me wonder if we'll ever see a particular degree of craft again. I mean the Ortiz Berto fight was entertaining but there was no shift in strategy, no adjustments, no 2nd level to go to. Same as the Degale Groves fight... There might be an element of Battle that these kids may never grasp.
I don't think there's any problem with the battle (listen to you Eddie Futch), it's the chess match they have trouble with (fuck, look at ME thinking I'm Ray Arcel). Any of these guys have come up being able to fight.

I remember discussing a similar thing with Maui. Once Mayweather, Hopkins & Marquez retire who is there who really looks to have that real fine craft of the next generation? Andre Ward & Chad Dawson maybe, perhaps Donaire, but truthfully I don't see too many guys.

Part of it may be that in the amateurs particularly at the international level, you don't get rewarded in the ways that would create real craft. The points scoring system that has been in place till recently effectively meant you didn't ever score with a jab & bodyshots don't count (although this has changed recently, but too far the other way). Having any kind of inside 'game' of the kind displayed in the Mayweathers & Hopkins of the world is pointless because it won't get you points.

Athleticism is the name of the game. I mean it really boggles my mind that guys making the kind of mistakes that I've seen Berto & Pascal make were international class amateurs.