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    anyone know if he's made an appearance since the lebedev fight? i wanna hear from the guy

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    He was commentating the chavez jr zbik fight and came off like he had lost his marbles arguing that chavez jr was a legit champ.

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    I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.
    the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.
    the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason
    Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

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    Some belts can mean something, but the second that belt was taken from martinez outside the ring over bullshit politics it became worthless. No hate for junior here tho because it was just as worthless in zbik's hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.
    the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason
    Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.
    The WBC is a joke. They stripped Martinez and had no valid reason. All designed to allow Chavez Jr. a title shot that was winnable.

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    I thought all Roy was saying was the Jr 'won' his title in a tough fight, he didnt get handed it on a silver platter
    When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough

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    So....

    Roy Jones Jr. anyone?

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    RJJ was saying he's willing to fight again, if the money and situation is right. So he's not retire yet. A DAMN SHAME!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.
    the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason
    Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.
    Martinez held the WBC Middleweight title after he beat Pavlik, the lineal champion, and was stripped for no reason other so that Chavez Jr could win a "world" title, if Chavez Jr really wanted the WBC title he should have fought it's rightful owner in Sergio Martinez, it's not a coincidence that Sulaiman is best friends with Chavez Sr, and if you want to go by your little explanation of what a champion is, then Pacquiao shouldn't be considered champion at 154, 147, 140, 135, hell not even at 130, he never unified any division, the same ideology should apply to everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    RJJ was saying he's willing to fight again, if the money and situation is right. So he's not retire yet. A DAMN SHAME!!!!
    I really hope he never fights again. Surely he can feel that he's not capable of doing the things he was 10 years ago?? It's stupid that we're even talking about him fighting 10 years after his prime never mind the fact he is actually doing it.

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    He should have gone after either the Calzaghe or Hopkins fight. The Calzaghe one would have been a Roy goes out on his shield kind of thing & he walks away. Hopkins was such a bad fight, he could have done the I just don't have it anymore thing (in fact at the time we wanted them to BOTH walk away, probably a bit wrong there). I mean he's lost his last 3 fights. It's the danger that he fucks up his gig with HBO through this that worries me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    He should have gone after either the Calzaghe or Hopkins fight. The Calzaghe one would have been a Roy goes out on his shield kind of thing & he walks away. Hopkins was such a bad fight, he could have done the I just don't have it anymore thing (in fact at the time we wanted them to BOTH walk away, probably a bit wrong there). I mean he's lost his last 3 fights. It's the danger that he fucks up his gig with HBO through this that worries me.
    IMO the perfect moment for Jones to walk away was after the Lacy fight, he put on a spectacular performance and showed signs of what he once was, and it was in his hometown, perfect ending

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    He should have gone after either the Calzaghe or Hopkins fight. The Calzaghe one would have been a Roy goes out on his shield kind of thing & he walks away. Hopkins was such a bad fight, he could have done the I just don't have it anymore thing (in fact at the time we wanted them to BOTH walk away, probably a bit wrong there). I mean he's lost his last 3 fights. It's the danger that he fucks up his gig with HBO through this that worries me.
    IMO the perfect moment for Jones to walk away was after the Lacy fight, he put on a spectacular performance and showed signs of what he once was, and it was in his hometown, perfect ending
    The thing that sticks most and shocked me to hear was him saying something along the lines of 'to be my age and to be in the 10th round against a top ranked cruiserweight'...yadda yadda

    Nothing like perspective I've come to two conclusions he's either seriously damaged and delusional or he is mentally %100 sharp as a tack but physically shot and a enormous egomaniac. He still calls a fight and handles a camera with the best. If he goes on I just don't feel for him at all. He knows what he's doing and he is lying to his legacy and his fans who appear to give a shit about him more then he does himself.

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