Roy post fight?

[fan johnny]

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

[captainanddew]

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

The WBC is a joke. They stripped Martinez and had no valid reason. All designed to allow Chavez Jr. a title shot that was winnable.

[Memphis]

I thought all Roy was saying was the Jr 'won' his title in a tough fight, he didnt get handed it on a silver platter

[AdamGB]

So....

Roy Jones Jr. anyone?

[Ant Live]

RJJ was saying he's willing to fight again, if the money and situation is right. So he's not retire yet. A DAMN SHAME!!!!

[rjj tszyu]

RJJ was saying he's willing to fight again, if the money and situation is right. So he's not retire yet. A DAMN SHAME!!!!

I really hope he never fights again. Surely he can feel that he's not capable of doing the things he was 10 years ago?? It's stupid that we're even talking about him fighting 10 years after his prime never mind the fact he is actually doing it.

[JazMerkin]

He should have gone after either the Calzaghe or Hopkins fight. The Calzaghe one would have been a Roy goes out on his shield kind of thing & he walks away. Hopkins was such a bad fight, he could have done the I just don't have it anymore thing (in fact at the time we wanted them to BOTH walk away, probably a bit wrong there). I mean he's lost his last 3 fights. It's the danger that he fucks up his gig with HBO through this that worries me.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

Martinez held the WBC Middleweight title after he beat Pavlik, the lineal champion, and was stripped for no reason other so that Chavez Jr could win a "world" title, if Chavez Jr really wanted the WBC title he should have fought it's rightful owner in Sergio Martinez, it's not a coincidence that Sulaiman is best friends with Chavez Sr, and if you want to go by your little explanation of what a champion is, then Pacquiao shouldn't be considered champion at 154, 147, 140, 135, hell not even at 130, he never unified any division, the same ideology should apply to everyone

[fan johnny]

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

Martinez held the WBC Middleweight title after he beat Pavlik, the lineal champion, and was stripped for no reason other so that Chavez Jr could win a "world" title, if Chavez Jr really wanted the WBC title he should have fought it's rightful owner in Sergio Martinez, it's not a coincidence that Sulaiman is best friends with Chavez Sr, and if you want to go by your little explanation of what a champion is, then Pacquiao shouldn't be considered champion at 154, 147, 140, 135, hell not even at 130, he never unified any division, the same ideology should apply to everyone

The critera would apply to ALL fighters not just Pacquiao and JCC jr.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I didn't think he was arguing JCC was the legit "linear" champ, I think he was saying that he was the WBC champion. Where as Max said JCC wasn't "The" Champion trying to diminish the significance of his win.

the thing is Max Kellerman was 100% right, Sergio Martinez had the WBC Middleweight title, was stripped and it was handed to Zbik so that Chavez could fight him and finally have a shot at a strap without risking his 0 against the REAL champion, Chavez picked up Martinez's left overs, a belt that was stolen from him out of the ring with no real reason

Yea sure Martinez is the linear title holder which most view as the most credible but come on man! that was no easy fight for JCC Jr. and his 0 was at risk. I don't think Martinez ever fought Zbik, so how can it be leftovers? Do you hate JCC Jr. that much? Now isn't it that Martinez is the next mandatory defense for JCC Jr. or is the a box off for that interim/silver thingy before there is a mandatory? I happen to think it would be better if anyone is to be called Champion over a weight-class that should beat all the major title holders. In other words I think it would be better if only the unified title holder should be called champion.

Martinez held the WBC Middleweight title after he beat Pavlik, the lineal champion, and was stripped for no reason other so that Chavez Jr could win a "world" title, if Chavez Jr really wanted the WBC title he should have fought it's rightful owner in Sergio Martinez, it's not a coincidence that Sulaiman is best friends with Chavez Sr, and if you want to go by your little explanation of what a champion is, then Pacquiao shouldn't be considered champion at 154, 147, 140, 135, hell not even at 130, he never unified any division, the same ideology should apply to everyone

The critera would apply to ALL fighters not just Pacquiao and JCC jr.

the real thing is it applies to ALL fighters, including Pacquiao and JCC Jr, you're one of the many that love to emphasize on Pacquiao being a "8 weight class champion", but given your definition, he shouldn't even be considered a champion in any of the divisions he fought in cause he never unified ANY OF THEM, your explanation of what a champion should be is utter bullshit dude, Pacquiao and Martinez are both world champions, why? cause they both fought and beat the guy considered #1 at their respective weight classes (Pacquiao at 108 and 130, Martinez at 160), everyone complains about there being too many belts and that the term World Champion is being tossed around too freely, well Chavez Jr is a prime example of it, i don't see how anyone could defend him seeing how FACT is Martinez was stripped of his title with no explanation given when he's considered THE MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, not only the WBC,WBA, IBF, WBO, WBU, IBA, NABF champion, etc. and the only viable explanation for it was for Jr to have a shot at his belt without having to fight Martinez himself, another example of this is Gamboa recently being stripped of his title without any reason other than to give Jonathon Barros (whom Gamboa already beat) the "official" title of WBA "regular" champion, crap like this is just CANCER to the sport, guys like Chavez Jr mooch off of popularity rather than accomplishments, while guys like Martinez and Pacquiao bust their ass to get the recognition due to them then aren't even given praise for a bigger accomplishment in beating the guy who is considered the best in their weight class rather than just collecting straps against the second tier guys