The Hype with Saul Alverez (apologies if spelt incorrectly!)

[Fenster]

Typical overhyped Mexifraud. Fact.

Guy has everything in his favour - home advantage, ref, judges, crowd, promotion and still can't easily dispatch two mediocre British, in fact less than mediocre, fighters.

24 rounds with two toilet Brits that ain't even the best in their own country. Pathetic.

Mexifraud will be destroyed the minute he meets a decent fighter. Fact.

Good thing he's fighting at 154 then no? His handlers will never put him in with Sergio Martinez, Cotto is starting to show his years. And that about wraps it up.

Exactly. Mexifraud ain't ever getting near Martinez or even an ancient Cotto.

I've heard Golden Boy are already in talks with Colin Lynes, Young Mutley and Bradley Pryce for the Mexifraud's next outing. Fact.

[killersheep]

Typical overhyped Mexifraud. Fact.

Guy has everything in his favour - home advantage, ref, judges, crowd, promotion and still can't easily dispatch two mediocre British, in fact less than mediocre, fighters.

24 rounds with two toilet Brits that ain't even the best in their own country. Pathetic.

Mexifraud will be destroyed the minute he meets a decent fighter. Fact.

Good thing he's fighting at 154 then no? His handlers will never put him in with Sergio Martinez, Cotto is starting to show his years. And that about wraps it up.

Exactly. Mexifraud ain't ever getting near Martinez or even an ancient Cotto.

I've heard Golden Boy are already in talks with Colin Lynes, Young Mutley and Bradley Pryce for the Mexifraud's next outing. Fact.

Well their plan to get the UK talking about him has worked, good or bad it's still publicity. I think HBO made is clear that long term they want to see him against JCC2, but in the mean time work on youse guys.
Not sure why you think he's a fraud though, he's not even old enough to drink stateside, and he's about the most active fighter in any kind of spotlight. I guess people want him knocking everyone out in 1-2 rounds, but that's not him and not the temperment his trainers are trying to put on him.

[Fenster]

Typical overhyped Mexifraud. Fact.

Guy has everything in his favour - home advantage, ref, judges, crowd, promotion and still can't easily dispatch two mediocre British, in fact less than mediocre, fighters.

24 rounds with two toilet Brits that ain't even the best in their own country. Pathetic.

Mexifraud will be destroyed the minute he meets a decent fighter. Fact.

Good thing he's fighting at 154 then no? His handlers will never put him in with Sergio Martinez, Cotto is starting to show his years. And that about wraps it up.

Exactly. Mexifraud ain't ever getting near Martinez or even an ancient Cotto.

I've heard Golden Boy are already in talks with Colin Lynes, Young Mutley and Bradley Pryce for the Mexifraud's next outing. Fact.

Well their plan to get the UK talking about him has worked, good or bad it's still publicity. I think HBO made is clear that long term they want to see him against JCC2, but in the mean time work on youse guys.
Not sure why you think he's a fraud though, he's not even old enough to drink stateside, and he's about the most active fighter in any kind of spotlight. I guess people want him knocking everyone out in 1-2 rounds, but that's not him and not the temperment his trainers are trying to put on him.

He's a fraud because VD, who is a boxing expert, says all the British fighters are useless frauds, even the ones that win "world" titles, so how can beating the Brits that ain't even known in their own country make you anything other than a padded record useless fraud?

VD is right.

Which means Alvarez is a Mexifraud.

[killersheep]

Typical overhyped Mexifraud. Fact.

Guy has everything in his favour - home advantage, ref, judges, crowd, promotion and still can't easily dispatch two mediocre British, in fact less than mediocre, fighters.

24 rounds with two toilet Brits that ain't even the best in their own country. Pathetic.

Mexifraud will be destroyed the minute he meets a decent fighter. Fact.

Good thing he's fighting at 154 then no? His handlers will never put him in with Sergio Martinez, Cotto is starting to show his years. And that about wraps it up.

Exactly. Mexifraud ain't ever getting near Martinez or even an ancient Cotto.

I've heard Golden Boy are already in talks with Colin Lynes, Young Mutley and Bradley Pryce for the Mexifraud's next outing. Fact.

Well their plan to get the UK talking about him has worked, good or bad it's still publicity. I think HBO made is clear that long term they want to see him against JCC2, but in the mean time work on youse guys.
Not sure why you think he's a fraud though, he's not even old enough to drink stateside, and he's about the most active fighter in any kind of spotlight. I guess people want him knocking everyone out in 1-2 rounds, but that's not him and not the temperment his trainers are trying to put on him.

He's a fraud because VD, who is a boxing expert, says all the British fighters are useless frauds, even the ones that win "world" titles, so how can beating the Brits that ain't even known in their own country make you anything other than a padded record useless fraud?

VD is right.

Which means Alvarez is a Mexifraud.

Didn't realize you were making a calculation using the VD standard

[Kev]

I'm kind of in the middle between great fighter and hype job. I don't think he's the next sensation but a the same time I think he's a lot better than Fenster is claiming, although clearly much of what he is saying is tongue in cheek and he probably actually stands where I do.

He has potential, could develop into one of the better guys but thus far he doesn't look any better than James Kirkland or Angulo, or Joel Julio and Sechew Powell before them.

It's weird to me that they are saying he's a sensation, I've not seen many of his fights admittedly but none have come close to exciting, let alone sensational.

His stardom is as random to me as if Ricky Burns was a massive PPV star in the UK or if Showtime were headlining David Price..

Clearly the good looks, freckles and red hair on a Mexican is a big part of the appeal.

[Hulk]

Only time I've seen Alvarez look truly impressive was when he stopped Carlos Baldomir.

[Dropanuke]

Random but I set my alarm for the rhodes fight and had a dream that he won a unanimous decision and I woke up.
I'll tell it how it is but Ryan did fucking well considering the age gap!!