Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
I CAN be brief...but not right now

Let me ask you a question. When you study histories in other areas, politics, military etc are you uncomfortable making judgements about the speaking abilities of Washington or Cicero or Lincoln because you don't have them on film? How about Napoleon or Alexander or even Patton? We don't have their battlefield triumphs on film either.

This is something I wonder about when I read your view.

I think perhaps I have too much time on my hands.
Don't we both?

I can't say with regards to the military as it's not an area I'm that knowledgeable about, but I'm certainly uncomfortable making a comparison between say public speakers who I've seen & heard with contrast to those such as Cicero or Lincoln. Obviously as with Greb, I take it as read that they were great at it, but I couldn't rank them (if I was into that ) having not heard them. I can make judgements on them as politicians through their policy decisions, so that doesn't bother me.