Wlad's best win??

[Gandalf]

Yes, nothing very special on the resume really, much like Calzaghe prior to Lacy. Some solid opponents, but nobody you would say was young, dangerous or seriously approaching a prime. The best you can give him was that Peter was his Lacy, but nothing spectacular around it. If anything at least this fight has got people talking, but I don't even think Haye is especially proven at HW either.

[AdamGB]

At the time I was impressed with his win over peter. In retrospect not as much though as Peter has ended up being a bit of a dud.

[Gandalf]

Plus that string of well dodgy losses, it's almost now like a style designed to mask the frail chin. And it is frail, there is no way to escape it. It is very much like Amir Khan's. That's why he is talking jab and jab and jab until the 12th because he knows he cannot do it any other way. Wlad cannot open up against anyone, even when safely ahead. But having said that, I think by using the safety first approach he beats Haye who probably doesn't have much of a chin himself.

[El Kabong]

At the time I was impressed with his win over peter. In retrospect not as much though as Peter has ended up being a bit of a dud.

Some fighters just don't handle that first loss well.

On miles' point about the WBA title holder not being proven at heavyweight....that's exactly WHY I wanted that dude to fight dangerous fighters. Sure getting a title is great and all but having a few solid wins over some dangerous opposition would make the fight mean so much more.

But there's not much to choose from as far as consistency and skill so I understand every fight other than vs Wlad would be extremely high risk and seemingly little reward.

I'm hoping some younger heavyweights turn out as solid threats. Helenius is better than I thought he would be up to this point, eventually Povetkin has to step up to the plate, and I'm sure there are a few more challenges out there.

[Hornfinger]

There's no one dangerous for haye to fight, other than wlad and that's his next fight. job done.

[El Kabong]

There's no one dangerous for haye to fight, other than wlad and that's his next fight. job done.

....No one more dangerous than Audley Harrison

Even though Solis is a fat fuck I would have been very pleased to see that amateur loss avenged....I still say that should be done whether or not he wins the fight vs Wlad (he won't win the fight vs Wlad or make another fight but still).

Adamek? Thompson? Chambers? There were better fights for him than Harrison and if he just wanted a good backyard English battle why not try Chisora, Sexton, or Fury?

[AdamGB]

Because they wouldn't have bought as much money to the table... despite being better fighters than Audley... a lot of people in the UK knew who he was and then the was the whole 'best of friends' crap that they used to sell the fight.

[El Kabong]

Because they wouldn't have bought as much money to the table... despite being better fighters than Audley... a lot of people in the UK knew who he was and then the was the whole 'best of friends' crap that they used to sell the fight.

I understand the idea of it but honestly WWE matches are less staged than that fight was. Couldn't Audley have been his first or second heavyweight fight

[Fenster]

Lyle, all you've done by constantly rubbishing Haye is hurt Wlad's rep. If Wlad wins it will be considered his most significant victory by miles.

It is a unification match.
Haye is ranked the 2nd best heavyweight by The Ring. He is in his prime. He is a dangerous KO artist.
He got Wlad back on HBO.
They are fighting in front of 60,000 fans and will do a million+ PPVs in Britain.
It is the richest fight in world boxing barring Pac-Floyd.

Even if Wlad sparks him in the first it will be regarded his best ever win just because of the magnitude of the event. It will certainly eclispe Sam plodder Peter. However, you have taken all the credit Wlad will deserve away from him

[Hornfinger]

There's no one dangerous for haye to fight, other than wlad and that's his next fight. job done.

....No one more dangerous than Audley Harrison

Even though Solis is a fat fuck I would have been very pleased to see that amateur loss avenged....I still say that should be done whether or not he wins the fight vs Wlad (he won't win the fight vs Wlad or make another fight but still).

Adamek? Thompson? Chambers? There were better fights for him than Harrison and if he just wanted a good backyard English battle why not try Chisora, Sexton, or Fury?

Someone else had his eye on chisora if I remember rightly.

Sexton or fury would have been the exact same out come as audley. Same with thompson and chambers.

I'll give you adamek tough even though you would have said something along the lines of 'adamek is practically a cruiser weight anyway.'

[El Kabong]

There's no one dangerous for haye to fight, other than wlad and that's his next fight. job done.

....No one more dangerous than Audley Harrison

Even though Solis is a fat fuck I would have been very pleased to see that amateur loss avenged....I still say that should be done whether or not he wins the fight vs Wlad (he won't win the fight vs Wlad or make another fight but still).

Adamek? Thompson? Chambers? There were better fights for him than Harrison and if he just wanted a good backyard English battle why not try Chisora, Sexton, or Fury?

Someone else had his eye on chisora if I remember rightly.

Sexton or fury would have been the exact same out come as audley. Same with thompson and chambers.

I'll give you adamek tough even though you would have said something along the lines of 'adamek is practically a cruiser weight anyway.'

Thompson and Chambers are good boxers, they don't draw crowds though, that's why they were overlooked. Thompson did find a way into camp as a sparring partner for the Harrison fight though.

I never thought Adamek would have had this much success at heavyweight, but he demolished Golota (albeit an old one) and he beat Arreola which still means a little bit especially for Adamek. He's a tough little bastard.


Erics44....are there any British fighters I can mention? Will you ALLOW me to mention Frank Bruno or Henry Cooper? Jesus...get off my back dude.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm frustrated with Povetkin. He should be facing a live body by now.

Is it or are the rest of the top ten heavyweights not facing each other for fear of a loss taking them out of contention for a Klitschko fight. After beating Arreola, Adamek hasn't faced anyone in the top 10. After losing to Adamek, Arreola hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. In all of Haye's heavyweight fights, he only faced Valuev who was in the top ten at the time. Povetkin hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. Eddie Chambers hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. Chagaev hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. Thompson hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. Helenius is moving up the rankings. The Peter win was a good win. He's maybe an exception. Boystov hasn't faced anyone in the top ten. When are we going to see Chambers v. Thompson or Boystov v. Povetkin etc. There are other good fights to be made outside of one with the Klitschko's.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think all things considered, either Byrd or Chagaev. I was actually impressed with how easily he dealt with Chagaev who I actually think is pretty decent.