I'm hearing rumors of Canelo vs. Cintron...bad move

[Gandalf]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

[piye]

I also think Cintron beats him.

[armyash]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

I agree surely if you have a title and you are the champ (1 of anyway) then you must consider yourself the best and be willing and able to face anyone.

[Rantcatrat]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

I hear that point. The way I see it is that if you have the title you should defend it. If you need time to develop than take the time. No harm in not fighting the best in the division if you need time to hone your craft, but then you shouldn't have the title because you aren't a champion yet. I may be wrong but I view Canelo a little bit different than Chavez Jr. He's either more developed or just better. I believe his mandatory is Vanes. That would actually be a legitimate fight and if he took the 0 from Vanes, I'd give him some real credit.

[15rounder]

Good comments in here. In reference to Canelo vs. JCC jr, those rumors are already circulating, especially in Mexico. I just hope it doesn't turn out (as i stated earlier) like another mayweather/pacman situation when it's time for those two to get in the ring. But they won't fight eachother for another 10-15 fights. I can see that story now, the kid with the silver spoon (JCC jr) vs. the poverty stricken kid who had to learn how to fight out of necessity (come on, being the only red head ever in mexico, you know he got picked on in school). But I digress again, Vanes seems like it would be a good match up for him, a reasonable step up in competition. This kid is going to steel alot of mexican fans from JCC jr.

[marbleheadmaui]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

Canelo is no more a champ than you or I. He's just got a strap. The kid is still a prospect. A popular one, but a prospect nonetheless.

[Kev]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

Canelo is no more a champ than you or I. He's just got a strap. The kid is still a prospect. A popular one, but a prospect nonetheless.

He's more of a champ than you to be fair. He has a strap, and also a boxing license. You have a Saddo account and maybe a subscription with HBO?

See the difference?

[marbleheadmaui]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

Canelo is no more a champ than you or I. He's just got a strap. The kid is still a prospect. A popular one, but a prospect nonetheless.

He's more of a champ than you to be fair. He has a strap, and also a boxing license. You have a Saddo account and maybe a subscription with HBO?

See the difference?

MAYBE a subscription to HBO? MAYBE? Sir, I'll have you know I overpay for both Showtime and HBO!

Harumph!

[Kev]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

Canelo is no more a champ than you or I. He's just got a strap. The kid is still a prospect. A popular one, but a prospect nonetheless.

He's more of a champ than you to be fair. He has a strap, and also a boxing license. You have a Saddo account and maybe a subscription with HBO?

See the difference?

MAYBE a subscription to HBO? MAYBE? Sir, I'll have you know I overpay for both Showtime and HBO!

Harumph!

My apologies, seems I under estimated you!

[Violent Demise]

As a welterweight Cintron power on a 1 to 10 scale was a 9. At 154 it's like a 6. He's no killer as a Junior Middleweight. I see no reason Alvarez can't beat him. Aside from the Williams fight in which he fucked up on his attempt at a Swanson bomb, Cintron has fought one scrub (doesn't count) and Martinez and Angulo. The Martinez fight was no draw. Cintron lost the fight. He beat Angulo. But it's obvious Angulo wasn't at 100%. Cintron was able to box him cuz even at 100% Angulo is pretty fucking slow. That game plan wouldn't work against Alvarez. I think Alvarez would put a beating on him. Forcing him to quit. The Cotto fight is something people will try and use against Alvarez chin. But it doesn't hold to much sense. Alvarez was struggling to make weight. That affected him. If I remember correctly they actually had to settle for making 150 cuz he was draining himself to much. His ability to take a punch is better now that he doesn't have to struggle with weight

[Mars_ax]

I like Cintron well enough, but do you ever notice how he usually comes out on the short end of the stick in title fights? Based on this, i'd have to see Cintron defeating Canelo to believe it, because with Cintron you never know WTF you might get.

If Canelo-Cintron does get made, i'd have to go with Cinnamon boy, Kermit doesn't like it to the body and that might be the difference in the fight.

[15rounder]

15 Rounder - I couldn't agree more. It's too soon for Cintron.

Cintron is too live and too big a puncher to put in with Canelo now. If Jose Cotto can wobble him, Cintron will knock him out. I would be very impressed with his team if they actually put him in with Canelo.

But isn't Canelo supposed to be a champ and earning big bucks on TV. What can be too soon? It's like JCC Jr, a massive hoax to string people along on the way up and yet still claim to be a champion. These people need to fight people who can beat them. That is the challenge.

As far as those two are concerned, well I don't know about jcc jr yet, but canelo is no hoax. He is however, a pure mexican fighter. And when you decide to start your boxing career in Mexico, you pretty much have to turn pro right away because their amateur program is for shit. That being said, these guys pretty much do their "amateur" career by fighting a ton of scrubs in pro fights. Very few come out in the wash and get major attention like Canelo. It was literally handed to jcc jr. That's why I don't think Canelo is a hoax. Ryan Rhodes was a reasonable opponent that could have given Canelo atlease a little bit of trouble but gave him none. And Canelo BEAT him up. Canelo is the hungrier fighter of the two because he's lived the poverty life and I'm betting every man that steps into the ring to face him he views as someone trying to put him back there. Chavez, don't bitch up when the time comes. That silver spoon will be filled with cinnamon punches.