The Recent Demise of American Boxing

[generalbulldog]

#1 These things are cyclical but due to there being no more USSR that deepens the talent pool. There are also more defectors from Cuba. The US has not been challenged to produce true great boxers for a while, it was a given we'd have them and look how our Olympic team has suffered. Never to fear, we'll be back, like I said its cyclical.

#2 The NBA and MLB have WORLD Champions because the best players in the world play in those leagues....anybody doubt that?

Outside of America no-one gives a shit about those sports. You can't compare a predominant American sport with one like football (soccer). Everywhere on the planet it is played and worshipped in astronomical numbers, by all walks of life.

Is being the worlds best baseball team any better than being the worlds best sumo?

Well since America is the center of the sports world, I'd say they're a big deal. The only reason soccer is so popular is because it's cheap to play. It's poplular in all countries that haven't figured out how to build a basketball goal or a two story building yet. And just because soccer is the most played, doesn't mean its the most entertaining. It's like watching cross country in a box. I mean come on...a sport where 2-1 is a high scoring game? Wake me up when its over. All other nations are scared shitless of feilding a football team because of the chance they might have to play the americans.

Now you're just being silly, soccer draws in far more money world wide than any other sport, it's not even close. And the NFL tried a Euro league, how did that pan out? 1-2 seasons maybe?

The NFL is the no. 1 sports league in generating revenue. Not bad for a sport that only Americans watch.

9 Billion USD for the NFL. For a soccer league like the EPL it's only £2.5 billion, the most profitable of all the soccer leagues. You're right it's not even close.

And for people shitting on basketball and baseball. Those are probably the no. 2 and 3 sports in the world in being watched. Europe might not like those sports that doesn't mean Asia and Latin America doesn't.

[killersheep]

#1 These things are cyclical but due to there being no more USSR that deepens the talent pool. There are also more defectors from Cuba. The US has not been challenged to produce true great boxers for a while, it was a given we'd have them and look how our Olympic team has suffered. Never to fear, we'll be back, like I said its cyclical.

#2 The NBA and MLB have WORLD Champions because the best players in the world play in those leagues....anybody doubt that?

Outside of America no-one gives a shit about those sports. You can't compare a predominant American sport with one like football (soccer). Everywhere on the planet it is played and worshipped in astronomical numbers, by all walks of life.

Is being the worlds best baseball team any better than being the worlds best sumo?

Well since America is the center of the sports world, I'd say they're a big deal. The only reason soccer is so popular is because it's cheap to play. It's poplular in all countries that haven't figured out how to build a basketball goal or a two story building yet. And just because soccer is the most played, doesn't mean its the most entertaining. It's like watching cross country in a box. I mean come on...a sport where 2-1 is a high scoring game? Wake me up when its over. All other nations are scared shitless of feilding a football team because of the chance they might have to play the americans.

Now you're just being silly, soccer draws in far more money world wide than any other sport, it's not even close. And the NFL tried a Euro league, how did that pan out? 1-2 seasons maybe?

The NFL is the no. 1 sports league in generating revenue. Not bad for a sport that only Americans watch.

9 Billion USD for the NFL. For a soccer league like the EPL it's only £2.5 billion, the most profitable of all the soccer leagues. You're right it's not even close.

And for people shitting on basketball and baseball. Those are probably the no. 2 and 3 sports in the world in being watched. Europe might not like those sports that doesn't mean Asia and Latin America doesn't.

Now all the soccer leagues in the world vs. all the football leagues in the world. Further add in revenues from national team matches.

I do concede that Baseball is very popular in Asia and Latin America

[Fenster]

#1 These things are cyclical but due to there being no more USSR that deepens the talent pool. There are also more defectors from Cuba. The US has not been challenged to produce true great boxers for a while, it was a given we'd have them and look how our Olympic team has suffered. Never to fear, we'll be back, like I said its cyclical.

#2 The NBA and MLB have WORLD Champions because the best players in the world play in those leagues....anybody doubt that?

Outside of America no-one gives a shit about those sports. You can't compare a predominant American sport with one like football (soccer). Everywhere on the planet it is played and worshipped in astronomical numbers, by all walks of life.

Is being the worlds best baseball team any better than being the worlds best sumo?

Well since America is the center of the sports world, I'd say they're a big deal. The only reason soccer is so popular is because it's cheap to play. It's poplular in all countries that haven't figured out how to build a basketball goal or a two story building yet. And just because soccer is the most played, doesn't mean its the most entertaining. It's like watching cross country in a box. I mean come on...a sport where 2-1 is a high scoring game? Wake me up when its over. All other nations are scared shitless of feilding a football team because of the chance they might have to play the americans.

Now you're just being silly, soccer draws in far more money world wide than any other sport, it's not even close. And the NFL tried a Euro league, how did that pan out? 1-2 seasons maybe?

The NFL is the no. 1 sports league in generating revenue. Not bad for a sport that only Americans watch.

9 Billion USD for the NFL. For a soccer league like the EPL it's only £2.5 billion, the most profitable of all the soccer leagues. You're right it's not even close.

And for people shitting on basketball and baseball. Those are probably the no. 2 and 3 sports in the world in being watched. Europe might not like those sports that doesn't mean Asia and Latin America doesn't.

Now all the soccer leagues in the world vs. all the football leagues in the world. Further add in revenues from national team matches.

I do concede that Baseball is very popular in Asia and Latin America

Even if American Football generates more money than football (the proper stuff) it is irrelevant to it's worldwide popularity. Football (soccer) is clearly the most popular sport on earth. Watched and played. I'm not even gonna look for stats because it's so blatantly obvious.

If Baseball and Basketball are the 2nd and 3rd most watched sports in the world I would be totally amazed. Maybe it has something to do with the size of nation watching it, however, that is very impressive for sports that seems soley American.

[VictorCharlie]

#1 These things are cyclical but due to there being no more USSR that deepens the talent pool. There are also more defectors from Cuba. The US has not been challenged to produce true great boxers for a while, it was a given we'd have them and look how our Olympic team has suffered. Never to fear, we'll be back, like I said its cyclical.

#2 The NBA and MLB have WORLD Champions because the best players in the world play in those leagues....anybody doubt that?

Outside of America no-one gives a shit about those sports. You can't compare a predominant American sport with one like football (soccer). Everywhere on the planet it is played and worshipped in astronomical numbers, by all walks of life.

Is being the worlds best baseball team any better than being the worlds best sumo?

Well since America is the center of the sports world, I'd say they're a big deal. The only reason soccer is so popular is because it's cheap to play. It's poplular in all countries that haven't figured out how to build a basketball goal or a two story building yet. And just because soccer is the most played, doesn't mean its the most entertaining. It's like watching cross country in a box. I mean come on...a sport where 2-1 is a high scoring game? Wake me up when its over. All other nations are scared shitless of feilding a football team because of the chance they might have to play the americans.

Now you're just being silly, soccer draws in far more money world wide than any other sport, it's not even close. And the NFL tried a Euro league, how did that pan out? 1-2 seasons maybe?

The NFL is the no. 1 sports league in generating revenue. Not bad for a sport that only Americans watch.

9 Billion USD for the NFL. For a soccer league like the EPL it's only £2.5 billion, the most profitable of all the soccer leagues. You're right it's not even close.

And for people shitting on basketball and baseball. Those are probably the no. 2 and 3 sports in the world in being watched. Europe might not like those sports that doesn't mean Asia and Latin America doesn't.

Now all the soccer leagues in the world vs. all the football leagues in the world. Further add in revenues from national team matches.

I do concede that Baseball is very popular in Asia and Latin America

Even if American Football generates more money than football (the proper stuff) it is irrelevant to it's worldwide popularity. Football (soccer) is clearly the most popular sport on earth. Watched and played. I'm not even gonna look for stats because it's so blatantly obvious.

If Baseball and Basketball are the 2nd and 3rd most watched sports in the world I would be totally amazed. Maybe it has something to do with the size of nation watching it, however, that is very impressive for sports that seems soley American.

You probably did not watch the last NBA draft but a hefty portion of the top 10 picks were international players suggesting an ever rising participation in the sport.

[Fenster]

#1 These things are cyclical but due to there being no more USSR that deepens the talent pool. There are also more defectors from Cuba. The US has not been challenged to produce true great boxers for a while, it was a given we'd have them and look how our Olympic team has suffered. Never to fear, we'll be back, like I said its cyclical.

#2 The NBA and MLB have WORLD Champions because the best players in the world play in those leagues....anybody doubt that?

Outside of America no-one gives a shit about those sports. You can't compare a predominant American sport with one like football (soccer). Everywhere on the planet it is played and worshipped in astronomical numbers, by all walks of life.

Is being the worlds best baseball team any better than being the worlds best sumo?

Well since America is the center of the sports world, I'd say they're a big deal. The only reason soccer is so popular is because it's cheap to play. It's poplular in all countries that haven't figured out how to build a basketball goal or a two story building yet. And just because soccer is the most played, doesn't mean its the most entertaining. It's like watching cross country in a box. I mean come on...a sport where 2-1 is a high scoring game? Wake me up when its over. All other nations are scared shitless of feilding a football team because of the chance they might have to play the americans.

Now you're just being silly, soccer draws in far more money world wide than any other sport, it's not even close. And the NFL tried a Euro league, how did that pan out? 1-2 seasons maybe?

The NFL is the no. 1 sports league in generating revenue. Not bad for a sport that only Americans watch.

9 Billion USD for the NFL. For a soccer league like the EPL it's only £2.5 billion, the most profitable of all the soccer leagues. You're right it's not even close.

And for people shitting on basketball and baseball. Those are probably the no. 2 and 3 sports in the world in being watched. Europe might not like those sports that doesn't mean Asia and Latin America doesn't.

Now all the soccer leagues in the world vs. all the football leagues in the world. Further add in revenues from national team matches.

I do concede that Baseball is very popular in Asia and Latin America

Even if American Football generates more money than football (the proper stuff) it is irrelevant to it's worldwide popularity. Football (soccer) is clearly the most popular sport on earth. Watched and played. I'm not even gonna look for stats because it's so blatantly obvious.

If Baseball and Basketball are the 2nd and 3rd most watched sports in the world I would be totally amazed. Maybe it has something to do with the size of nation watching it, however, that is very impressive for sports that seems soley American.

You probably did not watch the last NBA draft but a hefty portion of the top 10 picks were international players suggesting an ever rising participation in the sport.

I certainly did not. I know absolutely nothing about basketball, baseball or American football (well I know about the superbowl and have seen the Harlem Globetrotters live).

Basketball courts are far more common on London council estates than they were 20 years ago. I know that too.

Maybe they are more popular sports than I thought, they are certainly not challenging football though (soccer).

[johnsebastianmiran]

I did not create the situations I am about to describe but television network executives killed boxing on prime time. Doctors got on line to condemn and try to abolish boxing. This sport has taken many forms since the emergence of the Greek and Roman Empires and boxing goes further back. Give it any name you want, it has endured along with wrestling in Europe and Asia. Most men in America are formidable but the wimps have the jobs to put boxing in the background instead of the fore front. Wimpy executives canceled the highly rated Tuesday night fights and people on skateboards called themselves extreme sports. It's the mentality and the greed of the executives that keeps men from becoming champions in my country. Priorities have changed and I don't care to badmouth anyone that is second in line. Fighters like Mayweather put themselves in a position that makes them the most viable opponents while better men walk away because they couldn't attract flies laced in honey. This is truly a case of the few fucking the many. Professionals in fields screwing boxing wanted it abolished and suddenly Contact Karate finally called kick boxing came along but no one mentioned fatalities in MMA or legalized mayhem where you wear lighter gloves than boxers and get to hit your opponent when he's down. It's all how one packages it. Right now the wimps are in power. I still love boxing and soccer. I may even go to a basketball game once in a while but the most manly sport on earth is where you have to wear eight to ten ounce gloves and a cup under your shorts. Just before the bell rings the ref says,"May the best man win." That is what it is all about and boxing is better than ever and if I have to follow a foreign boxer then so be it, it is the manly art of self defense.

[marbleheadmaui]

I did not create the situations I am about to describe but television network executives killed boxing on prime time. Doctors got on line to condemn and try to abolish boxing. This sport has taken many forms since the emergence of the Greek and Roman Empires and boxing goes further back. Give it any name you want, it has endured along with wrestling in Europe and Asia. Most men in America are formidable but the wimps have the jobs to put boxing in the background instead of the fore front. Wimpy executives canceled the highly rated Tuesday night fights and people on skateboards called themselves extreme sports. It's the mentality and the greed of the executives that keeps men from becoming champions in my country. Priorities have changed and I don't care to badmouth anyone that is second in line. Fighters like Mayweather put themselves in a position that makes them the most viable opponents while better men walk away because they couldn't attract flies laced in honey. This is truly a case of the few fucking the many. Professionals in fields screwing boxing wanted it abolished and suddenly Contact Karate finally called kick boxing came along but no one mentioned fatalities in MMA or legalized mayhem where you wear lighter gloves than boxers and get to hit your opponent when he's down. It's all how one packages it. Right now the wimps are in power. I still love boxing and soccer. I may even go to a basketball game once in a while but the most manly sport on earth is where you have to wear eight to ten ounce gloves and a cup under your shorts. Just before the bell rings the ref says,"May the best man win." That is what it is all about and boxing is better than ever and if I have to follow a foreign boxer then so be it, it is the manly art of self defense.

Damn! [applause]