Ward/froch thoughts

**J_Undisputed** · 06-30-2011 05:58 PM

Wards style is unfortunately derived from the fact that he's not as good a boxer as people thought he was in the beginning. He started out trying to be the next Roy Jones and got caught once or twice before realizing he didn't want anymore of that. His style has since become what we see now in order for him to make a living in boxing. A guy that likes to rough people up on the inside, head butt, rabbit punch, hit on the break. His real opportunity comes when his opponents complain to the ref...that's when we see him try to open up and take advantage of a distracted opponent.
People will try to draw comparisons to Hopkins, but hopkins can beat you in a number of different ways. The truth about ward is that he resorted to this style when he couldn't get it done the other way. Ruiz has always been a hugger and never attempted or skill set to be a legit straight up fighter... or maybe he did,it was hard to tell in those 19 seconds before Tua nearly decapitated him and perhaps changed his mind. Vlad does hold a lot but he doesn't need it for the victory. The clinching range actually favors his opponents if they didn't get to comfortable leaning against him to catch their breath.
Ward is mostly hype. Unfortunately, he's not very marketable either. Much like a Berto, he's the best of the worst right now at a time where boxing needs superstars, and gets self promoting entrepreneurs that want to sign big contracts. They have to put a positive spin on these guys for people to find reasons to like them (like being the religious type/family man/hometown boy), tune in long enough for the next real fighter to show up.
We got what we got in Ward. The perspective for some is they don't want to see a cheater win, especially in a bout that's about as entertaining as watching paint dry. The perspective for others is that boxing is their fraternity and he's the closest boxing has got to a dominant SM champ, whatever his methods.

**bustedknuckles** · 06-30-2011 06:52 PM

Ward beat Kessler with his head and unfortunately I can see a similar scenario this time around.
Hope Karl knocks him the fuck out, son of god my arse !

**Master** · 06-30-2011 08:10 PM

Andre Ward will easily beat Carl Froch, he has too much speed and boxing skills. Froch is too slow and carries his hands way too low and will be out pointed convincingly. Froch is good but Andre is exceptional.

**Taffturner** · 06-30-2011 09:45 PM

froch punches very hard and has a high work rate, if he catches ward i think he'l be too strong and relentless 4 ward to cope with. Allthough ward is slick i just dont know if he'l keep out the way for 12rounds with the pressure froch puts on

Originally Posted by Master

Andre Ward will easily beat Carl Froch, he has too much speed and boxing skills. Froch is too slow and carries his hands way too low and will be out pointed convincingly. Froch is good but Andre is exceptional.

**Master** · 07-01-2011 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Taffturner

froch punches very hard and has a high work rate, if he catches ward i think he'l be too strong and relentless 4 ward to cope with. Allthough ward is slick i just dont know if he'l keep out the way for 12rounds with the pressure froch puts on

Originally Posted by Master

Andre Ward will easily beat Carl Froch, he has too much speed and boxing skills. Froch is too slow and carries his hands way too low and will be out pointed convincingly. Froch is good but Andre is exceptional.

I will be supporting Froch but cannot see him beat Andre. I agree Froch is stronger and more powerful but not quick enough to nail Ward. Froch will need to fight physical and even dirty to win, like he did with Dirrell. I hope he can pull it off but in the US, with Andre’s ref, Froch will not even come close. If Froch pulls off the victory, he will be made for life, he has an open cheque book and he can fight whoever he likes. I hope that is motivation for him to win the fight but highly doubt that he will win.