Congratulations David Haye. Magnificent effort. Fact.

[Fenster]

Fenster, I don't understand why it is so difficult for you to comprehend that if you are going to talk the talk, then you should walk the walk. Period. End of story.

Haye is horrible for boxing. Haye got the casual boxing fan to tune in because he did such a good job faking people into believing he would actually fight Wlad. And then once, the casual fan was tuned in, he put on a dreadful, dreadful performance. That is the kind of the performance that turns people off to boxing. In a time, where the sport isn't doing as well as it has in the past, performances like that, performances like Shane Mosley's against Pacquiao, irreparably hurt the cause. If Haye hadn't tried to convince everyone to believing that he would stand and fight Klitschko and that he would at least try to turn in a good performance, I wouldn't say anything. This performance would go under the radar. He tricked us. I applaud boxers like Matthew Hatton or Micheal Jennings, who although comparably outgunned, went into the lion's den as class acts and left it all in the ring, not fraudsters like David Haye.

As as fan of Haye, you should be gutted that he turned out to be such a fake and embarrassed because he turned out to not possess any mettle.

You hated Haye before this fight.. now you hate him even more.

I thought Haye was a good boxer before this fight.. and I still KNOW he is a good boxer.

Sorry mate but i'm clearly not as emotionally attached to this stuff as you. I am not gutted. I am not embarassed. And I don't think Haye is a fraud or has anything to be ashamed about. He lost to a better man. That's it.

TitoFan, have upset you in the past? You seem to have a problem with me?

No problem, Fen. I'm just calling you out because I feel you're defending the indefensible. In a way I sort of understand. It's not easy to stand there and say: "My guy stunk up the joint and I was dead wrong." But hey..... Dark Lord Al is doing it, and to an extent so is Miles. But I know it's difficult.... seriously.

So you want me to lie?

I didn't realise everyone had to think and see exactly the same thing in life?

Sorry if I didn't see what you did.

Bilbo, good post (me and bilbo in agreement on something. Hilarious.)