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    Default Re: Rematch

    only for the money....haye doesnt deserve even to get a fight with Holyfield.

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    Haye should grow a pair and fight Danny green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    There's no real grounds for a rematch. Haye was thoroughly outclassed, so I can't see too many people buying into an immediate rematch. How would they promote it? He won 2 rounds if that, and the toe excuse isn't really washing with anyone. I don't think anyone would be sucked into believing it would play out any differently.

    If he wants to fight on beyond this October retirement date, then he needs to knock off a few contenders and work his way into contention. I think there's some interesting fights for Haye at HW aside from the brothers. Whether he sticks around long enough to take on any of them remains to be seen.
    Right, at this point, I'm not even sure Haye can hang with, Povetkin, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Helenius, or Chisora, he needs to defeat some of these pugs, and work his way into contention. Enough of Haye getting title fights with his mouth, work for it like everyone else has to.

    Chances are, Haye isn't going to going to hit the "comeback" circuit, and fight other contenders, he's too much of a fucking premadonna for that. He might however be able to sell what's left of his gullible fanboy base on a fight with Vitali, I sure hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    There's no real grounds for a rematch. Haye was thoroughly outclassed, so I can't see too many people buying into an immediate rematch. How would they promote it? He won 2 rounds if that, and the toe excuse isn't really washing with anyone. I don't think anyone would be sucked into believing it would play out any differently.

    If he wants to fight on beyond this October retirement date, then he needs to knock off a few contenders and work his way into contention. I think there's some interesting fights for Haye at HW aside from the brothers. Whether he sticks around long enough to take on any of them remains to be seen.
    Right, at this point, I'm not even sure Haye can hang with, Povetkin, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Helenius, or Chisora, he needs to defeat some of these pugs, and work his way into contention. Enough of Haye getting title fights with his mouth, work for it like everyone else has to.

    Chances are, Haye isn't going to going to hit the "comeback" circuit, and fight other contenders, he's too much of a fucking premadonna for that. He might however be able to sell what's left of his gullible fanboy base on a fight with Vitali, I sure hope so.
    I honestly think Haye would have had a better chance trying to out box Vitali. The evasiveness he presented Wlad with was decent, and Wlad is the sharper boxer of the brothers.

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    i agree with that. I always thought the last mobile vitali would be easier for haye to hit. Vitali also holds his gloves lower.

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    The only reason I can see for a rematch is that Wlad looked genuinely angry with himself because he didn't knock Haye out. That and a payday might be motivation enough. I'll not be watching it though. If Haye fights him 10 times he still loses.

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    I bet you will watch it if it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    There's no real grounds for a rematch. Haye was thoroughly outclassed, so I can't see too many people buying into an immediate rematch. How would they promote it? He won 2 rounds if that, and the toe excuse isn't really washing with anyone. I don't think anyone would be sucked into believing it would play out any differently.

    If he wants to fight on beyond this October retirement date, then he needs to knock off a few contenders and work his way into contention. I think there's some interesting fights for Haye at HW aside from the brothers. Whether he sticks around long enough to take on any of them remains to be seen.
    Right, at this point, I'm not even sure Haye can hang with, Povetkin, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Helenius, or Chisora, he needs to defeat some of these pugs, and work his way into contention. Enough of Haye getting title fights with his mouth, work for it like everyone else has to.

    Chances are, Haye isn't going to going to hit the "comeback" circuit, and fight other contenders, he's too much of a fucking premadonna for that. He might however be able to sell what's left of his gullible fanboy base on a fight with Vitali, I sure hope so.
    I honestly think Haye would have had a better chance trying to out box Vitali. The evasiveness he presented Wlad with was decent, and Wlad is the sharper boxer of the brothers.
    The biggest problem Haye had with Wlad was reaching him to hit him. Vitali is even bigger than Wlad, and more accurate with his punches, it would be a fucking massacre, Vitali would finish the job his brother started, and the "HAREmaker" would barely land a glove on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    I bet you will watch it if it happens.
    All right, fair enough I probably will.

    Heavyweight is still a pretty dull division but there is still something about the possibility of seeing a giant hit the canvas that makes me want to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    There's no real grounds for a rematch. Haye was thoroughly outclassed, so I can't see too many people buying into an immediate rematch. How would they promote it? He won 2 rounds if that, and the toe excuse isn't really washing with anyone. I don't think anyone would be sucked into believing it would play out any differently.

    If he wants to fight on beyond this October retirement date, then he needs to knock off a few contenders and work his way into contention. I think there's some interesting fights for Haye at HW aside from the brothers. Whether he sticks around long enough to take on any of them remains to be seen.
    Right, at this point, I'm not even sure Haye can hang with, Povetkin, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Helenius, or Chisora, he needs to defeat some of these pugs, and work his way into contention. Enough of Haye getting title fights with his mouth, work for it like everyone else has to.

    Chances are, Haye isn't going to going to hit the "comeback" circuit, and fight other contenders, he's too much of a fucking premadonna for that. He might however be able to sell what's left of his gullible fanboy base on a fight with Vitali, I sure hope so.
    I honestly think Haye would have had a better chance trying to out box Vitali. The evasiveness he presented Wlad with was decent, and Wlad is the sharper boxer of the brothers.
    The biggest problem Haye had with Wlad was reaching him to hit him. Vitali is even bigger than Wlad, and more accurate with his punches, it would be a fucking massacre, Vitali would finish the job his brother started, and the "HAREmaker" would barely land a glove on him.
    Really? Despite the extra height, I personally found Vitali a bit easier to hit than Wlad is. That is, Wlad in his recent. (I think his defense got a little better). In the all too short fight between Vitali and Solis, Vitali looked hitable. Of course I would not expect anyone to KO Vitali.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cressa121 View Post
    There's no real grounds for a rematch. Haye was thoroughly outclassed, so I can't see too many people buying into an immediate rematch. How would they promote it? He won 2 rounds if that, and the toe excuse isn't really washing with anyone. I don't think anyone would be sucked into believing it would play out any differently.

    If he wants to fight on beyond this October retirement date, then he needs to knock off a few contenders and work his way into contention. I think there's some interesting fights for Haye at HW aside from the brothers. Whether he sticks around long enough to take on any of them remains to be seen.
    Right, at this point, I'm not even sure Haye can hang with, Povetkin, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Helenius, or Chisora, he needs to defeat some of these pugs, and work his way into contention. Enough of Haye getting title fights with his mouth, work for it like everyone else has to.

    Chances are, Haye isn't going to going to hit the "comeback" circuit, and fight other contenders, he's too much of a fucking premadonna for that. He might however be able to sell what's left of his gullible fanboy base on a fight with Vitali, I sure hope so.
    I honestly think Haye would have had a better chance trying to out box Vitali. The evasiveness he presented Wlad with was decent, and Wlad is the sharper boxer of the brothers.
    The biggest problem Haye had with Wlad was reaching him to hit him. Vitali is even bigger than Wlad, and more accurate with his punches, it would be a fucking massacre, Vitali would finish the job his brother started, and the "HAREmaker" would barely land a glove on him.
    Really? Despite the extra height, I personally found Vitali a bit easier to hit than Wlad is. That is, Wlad in his recent. (I think his defense got a little better). In the all too short fight between Vitali and Solis, Vitali looked hitable. Of course I would not expect anyone to KO Vitali.
    The only Pugs that come to mind who've had much success getting clean flush shots in on Vitali were Lewis and Sanders. Vitali looks hittable, because he keeps his hands down at times, but he really isn't that easy to reach.

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    Wlad took a few good shots, I was impressed with how he dealt with it. I think that frustrated Haye as much as anything else.

    Haye took punches better than I thought he would too, although I saw him get a little bandy legged a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Wlad took a few good shots, I was impressed with how he dealt with it. I think that frustrated Haye as much as anything else.

    Haye took punches better than I thought he would too, although I saw him get a little bandy legged a few times.
    I don't believe Wlad was able to catch Haye with anything flush, or in the right spot, Wlad even said as much after the fight.

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    I think Vitali (if Haye doesnt retire in the meantime) will offer Haye a fight early next year, around Februrary/March something like that. Vitali will fancy he can knock Haye out and I reckon he'll want to give it a go. I think its as legit a fight as any other really. Haye will have to accept whatever contract they throw at him though and he might not go for it.

    The Klits have taken on the same opponents many times to complete the jobs on fighters. And I dont think they consider the job truly complete until Haye is KO'd. Vitali has knocked out Purrity, Sanders, Peter after Wlad couldnt knock them out. Wlad took on Byrd who 'beat' Vitali and did him on points.
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    There is no point to a rematch. This was a huge letdown of a fight. The casual fan that bought into this fight being competitive won't fall for it a second time and most boxing fans don't want to see Haye near a boxing ring unless he's the promoter. More importantly, Haye just isn't a very good heavyweight and isn't near the level of a Wladimir Klitschko.

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