Former Haye Fans perspective.

[FTMatty]

Until Saturday night, I was a massive Haye fan, having followed him for years through the cruiser weight division and into the heavyweights.
I used to be able to ignore all the trash talk and mark it down as a PPV sales pitch.
I honestly thought he had the skills to trouble Wlad, if not beat him.
I was pretty embarrassed by his performance and lack of aggression on Saturday night, but was willing to accept that Wlad was much the better fighter and easily deserved the win.
What really got my back up, was the "little toe waving" and excuse making from Haye.
You are a heavyweight world champion, who has just been schooled by a much bigger and better opponent, just accept it, show a little humility and respect, and go home.
Waving the life threatening toe injury around straight after the fight, when the adrenaline is still pumping is one thing. But to stand on the desk at a press conference a few hours later is something totally different.
Surely a doctor or his management should have told Haye, that the best cure for a broken toe is to man the fuck up!
If Haye continues boxing, and holds his next fight at the bottom of my garden, I will draw the curtains.
If he does get a rematch, I hope Wlad bangs him on his arse in the first round.

Yours Sincerely

FTMatty
(Ashamed Former Haye Fan)

[AdamGB]

I lost a bit of respect for him harping about his toe... I can tell you from my experience fighting with a partially dislocated shoulder that with all the adrenaline flying around I doubt he felt his toe that much.

He should have just kept his mouth shut.

I have to say though... Haye didn't stand in front of Wlad because he wasn't strong enough to... If he was more aggresive and let his hands go he'd have been KO'd for sure and he knew it... so he was trying to move laterally and land a fight changing shot from the outside... I said before the fight he'd do this and he did - because he couldn't do much else.

He could have taken a bigger risk and maybe increased his chances of landing something big... but the risk of a KO would have went up close to 100% in my eyes.

To say you're embarrassed and ashamed for him? You were never a fan in the first place. You're a fair weather fan in that case who got suckered in by the hype.

[Fenster]

He shouldn't have mentioned the toe. But he admitted Wlad was better than him. He's in a no win situation now though.

"I didn't blame the loss on the injury. The reason why I lost is because Wladimir was better then me, he landed more shots," Haye admitted.

BBC - Newsbeat - David Haye: 'I'm not blaming Klitschko defeat on toe'

[Mark TKO]

To say you're embarrassed and ashamed for him? You were never a fan in the first place. You're a fair weather fan in that case who got suckered in by the hype.

I can vouch he has been a Haye fan for a long time. And I can vouch he well pissed off re Saturday night - maybe the red mist will clear, maybe not.

So people don't turn on their heros then and become ashamed ? I think they do. It can go the other way too aswell.

[AdamGB]

Sorry mate but anybody who makes big statements like that must have been pretty stupid and gotten carried away with all the prefight talk... it was never going to be Rocky 4.

You must have some arsehole/bottle your self if you're 'ashamed' of Haye, a former cruiserweight fighting a guy with the physical presence of Wlad... Like I said it was never going to be a dog fight, next time take prefight talk with more than a pinch of salt.

I'm not saying he did brilliant but there is some pretty big talk going around from heart broken fans who got carried away with the hype... bunch of fucking jilted boyfriends/fair weather fans the lot of you!

[FTMatty]

To say you're embarrassed and ashamed for him? You were never a fan in the first place. You're a fair weather fan in that case who got suckered in by the hype.

Absolutely not.
I'm embarrassed by his post fight conduct and toe waving. I used to be proud to sing Hayes praises in a number of heated arguments over the years, how can I possibly be proud of a fighter that cries about a little toe??

The way Adam Booth is talking saying Haye should retire, I think he knows there is no future.

[FTMatty]

Sorry mate but anybody who makes big statements like that must have been pretty stupid and gotten carried away with all the prefight talk... it was never going to be Rocky 4.

You must have some arsehole/bottle your self if you're 'ashamed' of Haye, a former cruiserweight fighting a guy with the physical presence of Wlad... Like I said it was never going to be a dog fight, next time take prefight talk with more than a pinch of salt.

I'm not saying he did brilliant but there is some pretty big talk going around from heart broken fans who got carried away with the hype... bunch of fucking jilted boyfriends/fair weather fans the lot of you!

the loss isn't the issue, Wlad is a great fighter, who I knew Haye would struggle against.

[AdamGB]

BBC - Newsbeat - David Haye: 'I'm not blaming Klitschko defeat on toe'

Of course he is going to have something to say... I'd rather he hadn't but if it's made you do a complete 180 on being a fan when the loss haven't then you're either extrmely reactionary or weren't a real fan to begin with.

[FTMatty]

BBC - Newsbeat - David Haye: 'I'm not blaming Klitschko defeat on toe'

Of course he is going to have something to say... I'd rather he hadn't but if it's made you do a complete 180 on being a fan when the loss haven't then you're either extrmely reactionary or weren't a real fan to begin with.

I may still have a lot of "red mist" going on, but I'm really disappointed with Haye the man rather than Haye the fighter.
The correct course of action would have been to compliment Wlad and leave via the nearest exit. Not whinge about a little toe. I don't mind a bit of trash talk before a fight, but show some respect and more importantly, dignity after a fight whether it be a win, loss or a draw.

[AdamGB]

I agree and like I said I did lose a bit of respect for him for saying it/falling down so much as the fight went on... not enough to say I'm ashamed or no longer a fan etc though.

[Mark TKO]

Haye knocks him out early in a rematch. Fact

[Gandalf]

Haye knocks him out early in a rematch. Fact

Hahaha! Good one that!

[Hornfinger]

I've lost no respect for haye. I'm not dissapointed with him, I'm not angry with him.

You know why?

It has no baring on my life WHAT SO EVER. I have my own life and don't need to live through another person or sports team.

Haye got in the ring with a bigger man fighting for the biggest prize in his proffesion. I would urge anyone who is critisizing haye to look at their own life and think about what it is they do and a what point they plan on reaching the very top of it. Then think to yourself if you just fell slightly short but had a load of people moaning at you for it.

It's boxing, a sport, a form of entertainment to brighten up the lives of the mundane. It's nothing to get upset about.

If a rematch happens, which I think it will, more than likely the out come will be the same, but I'll still be supporting haye throughout.

[Hunter]

I've lost no respect for haye. I'm not dissapointed with him, I'm not angry with him.

You know why?

It has no baring on my life WHAT SO EVER. I have my own life and don't need to live through another person or sports team.

Haye got in the ring with a bigger man fighting for the biggest prize in his proffesion. I would urge anyone who is critisizing haye to look at their own life and think about what it is they do and a what point they plan on reaching the very top of it. Then think to yourself if you just fell slightly short but had a load of people moaning at you for it.

It's boxing, a sport, a form of entertainment to brighten up the lives of the mundane. It's nothing to get upset about.

If a rematch happens, which I think it will, more than likely the out come will be the same, but I'll still be supporting haye throughout.

Haye is going to go down as the biggest Fraud in heavyweight championship history. Way to go! Haye is the Enron of boxing. hahaha

[Hornfinger]

I've lost no respect for haye. I'm not dissapointed with him, I'm not angry with him.

You know why?

It has no baring on my life WHAT SO EVER. I have my own life and don't need to live through another person or sports team.

Haye got in the ring with a bigger man fighting for the biggest prize in his proffesion. I would urge anyone who is critisizing haye to look at their own life and think about what it is they do and a what point they plan on reaching the very top of it. Then think to yourself if you just fell slightly short but had a load of people moaning at you for it.

It's boxing, a sport, a form of entertainment to brighten up the lives of the mundane. It's nothing to get upset about.

If a rematch happens, which I think it will, more than likely the out come will be the same, but I'll still be supporting haye throughout.

Haye is going to go down as the biggest Fraud in heavyweight championship history. Way to go! Haye is the Enron of boxing. hahaha

Lol no I think most the current crop of american heavyweights already beat haye to that a long time ago. But what ever makes you feel better about your own countries failures.