Haye gets the last laugh

[Mars_ax]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

[Fenster]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

[generalbulldog]

Actually Wlad got the last laugh. Why? He's an Ukrainian born in Kazakhstan that has been living in Beverly Hills, California for years (since 2004) and made the same amount of money as Haye from the British and German people without really having any connection to both groups.

Now that's what you call hustling son.

[El Kabong]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

Nobody....NOBODY thought Haye would "fight" (if you can even call it that) the way he did. Some people expected a Valuev type fight, some expected a Harrison type fight....but you didn't even get those. Wlad pressed the action. Wlad picks his punches and that's why he landed more and at a higher percentage.

You're looking for an excuse out of me for why Wlad didn't come out guns a blazing...well hell I don't know Wlad had said all along he wanted a 12th round KO, so shit I don't know. I was a little impressed that Haye took the punches Wlad threw as well as he did and I fully admit I didn't think he could. But why wasn't Haye as he advertised himself? Was it just the broken toe or did he have a hang nail too?


Allow me to ask this, when is the next time that you think David Haye will be on HBO? I'm pretty sure Wlad will be back on soon.

[Fenster]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

Nobody....NOBODY thought Haye would "fight" (if you can even call it that) the way he did. Some people expected a Valuev type fight, some expected a Harrison type fight....but you didn't even get those. Wlad pressed the action. Wlad picks his punches and that's why he landed more and at a higher percentage.

You're looking for an excuse out of me for why Wlad didn't come out guns a blazing...well hell I don't know Wlad had said all along he wanted a 12th round KO, so shit I don't know. I was a little impressed that Haye took the punches Wlad threw as well as he did and I fully admit I didn't think he could. But why wasn't Haye as he advertised himself? Was it just the broken toe or did he have a hang nail too?


Allow me to ask this, when is the next time that you think David Haye will be on HBO? I'm pretty sure Wlad will be back on soon.

Plenty of people predicted Haye would fight cautious.

Why would Haye care about HBO? He's made more money in ONE fight, Wlad too for that matter, than most fighters that have ever lived. That's why he can retire at 30.

I have NO problem with the fight Wlad fought. He did what he always does. He didn't do what YOU hoped. He was in yet another lacklustre fight. You can blame Haye if you want. It wont change the fact Wlad was in yet another snoozer (well not for me i quite enjoyed it).

[ross]

. I was a little impressed that Haye took the punches Wlad threw as well as he did and I fully admit I didn't think he could.

This is something easily explained. The lack of any knockdowns is that both were
Etrified of getting in range. Neither has the best faith in their ability to defend, avoid or take a shot. With Haye it was blatantly obvious with those few looping overhand shots he tried that were miles away, he didnt want to get in range. As for Wlad, I was screaming at the screen for him to throw the fucking right hand!

The shots that did land had no real conviction in them, none were thrown with the full body and effort behind them and in range. Haye did alot of pointless upper body movement while out of range but still got caught with shots. He has no idea of how to get in range and not get hit like a Mike Tyson for instance.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

Nobody....NOBODY thought Haye would "fight" (if you can even call it that) the way he did. Some people expected a Valuev type fight, some expected a Harrison type fight....but you didn't even get those. Wlad pressed the action. Wlad picks his punches and that's why he landed more and at a higher percentage.

You're looking for an excuse out of me for why Wlad didn't come out guns a blazing...well hell I don't know Wlad had said all along he wanted a 12th round KO, so shit I don't know. I was a little impressed that Haye took the punches Wlad threw as well as he did and I fully admit I didn't think he could. But why wasn't Haye as he advertised himself? Was it just the broken toe or did he have a hang nail too?


Allow me to ask this, when is the next time that you think David Haye will be on HBO? I'm pretty sure Wlad will be back on soon.

Well considering Haye fought like that against Valuev, it's not exactly inconceivable. And don't you dare try and mention hindsight because i've already been there. Already mentioned that Haye likes to go missing, take his time and pick his shots. And as for Wladimir picking his shots, the only punch he landed more or at a better connection rate (or both) was his jab!

Lyle answer me this, when exactly did Ibragimov throw anything that resembled a hurtfull punch? This fight was nothing like the Ibragimov fight. Boring maybe but imo no more boring than the Mayweather Dela Hoya fight.

Now answer me this, when was the last time you saw a wildly exciting superfight?

[Mars_ax]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Like i've told you before Fenster, I can't stand anything about Haye, but he ain't worth the effort it would take to hate him. You seem to not be able to differentiate, between simple criticism and hate, and you become defensive, "irrational", and overly emotional, when you believe your boy Haye is being attacked.

Even though you might not think so, Haye is deserving of ANY criticism he's getting, "hate" and has little to do with it, it's all fun and games.

[Memphis]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

[Mars_ax]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis. I mean WTF am I saying wrong here, I'm not saying all fans in the UK worshipped and overrated Haye to the hilt, but plenty did. You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

[Memphis]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis.

Sorry my mistake, I thought you said greatest since LL, not anywhere close to being as good as Lewis, different things arent they my man, my bad.

[Memphis]

You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

I'd like to think that most people would be hoping rather than expecting. Anyone expecting got it wrong, simple, its no biggie, they just wouldnt be welcome on a boxing forum full of experts who get it right all the time is all.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis. I mean WTF am I saying wrong here, I'm not saying all fans in the UK worshipped and overrated Haye to the hilt, but plenty did. You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

Dude. It was a HEAVYWEIGHT SUPERFIGHT. Even if David Haye was Eritrean, you can bet your last dollar that there would of been 10,000 Eritreans in Hamburg that night.

[El Kabong]

Jimbo, the British fans are amazing and they support their fighters like no other....but some of those fans are just uneducated or just have this mental block about their fighters being the best. All fans are capable of it, the US has their fair share of flops, but not as many that are as big of a flop as Haye, like I said in heavyweights the closest we can recently come is Kevin Johnson.

Haye refused to fight, he didn't even try to go for the KO...it was appalling.

That being said, Nicolay Valuev is starting to get a bit mouthy now too...I hope he fights Wlad, that's another fraud that needs to be taught a lesson.

[Mars_ax]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis. I mean WTF am I saying wrong here, I'm not saying all fans in the UK worshipped and overrated Haye to the hilt, but plenty did. You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

Dude. It was a HEAVYWEIGHT SUPERFIGHT. Even if David Haye was Eritrean, you can bet your last dollar that there would of been 10,000 Eritreans in Hamburg that night.

Nope, I don't buy that, only 10,000 Brits, would have shown up in Hamburg.