Haye gets the last laugh

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis. I mean WTF am I saying wrong here, I'm not saying all fans in the UK worshipped and overrated Haye to the hilt, but plenty did. You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

Dude. It was a HEAVYWEIGHT SUPERFIGHT. Even if David Haye was Eritrean, you can bet your last dollar that there would of been 10,000 Eritreans in Hamburg that night.

[mattboxingfan]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Aww

[Mars_ax]

You said half of Britain thought he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. Prove it?

If you care so little for Haye why keep making threads and posts about him? None of which are positive.

I haven't defended Haye over a thing. Merely countering some uncalled-for nonsense

Oh really? Like none of what you've posted in the endless post fight threads has been about defending Haye?

Like I said, Haye deserves everything that's coming his way, he brought it on himself, as for negative posts and threads about him. I haven't gone overboard posting threads about him, i'm just countering some uncalled-for bullshit by Haye and his fans and, telling it the way I see it..

You'd have to show me what i've been defending?

Barring the accusation that he's a coward, which is pathetic, I haven't defended anything else.

This thread you've started was about Haye making tons of money. I agreed with you.

Have I ever denied he lost? No.
Did I defend the toe excuse? No.

I don't believe his performance was as horrible as most. I don't think I was conned. I enjoyed the whole event.

Not sure what you're getting at? I guess you can't prove half of British fans thought he was the next Lennox Lewis then?

I was entertained by by the fight, but that was only because Wlad dominated. As for Haye's performance, fer christ sakes man, he landed 6 punches a round, less than half of the 13 he averaged in the Valuev stinker, and fell down about 12 times, how was it not Horrible? Especially in view of the fact that he'd been talking continuous shit about how he was going to decapitate Wlad for months prior to the fight, then fought like a douche.

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything, it just seemed like 1/2 of British boxing fans had this chump overrated to the hilt, and were betting on him, and predicting that he'd KO Wlad within a couple rounds. What did the pre-fight polls for this fight look like in the UK?

[El Kabong]

Jimbo, the British fans are amazing and they support their fighters like no other....but some of those fans are just uneducated or just have this mental block about their fighters being the best. All fans are capable of it, the US has their fair share of flops, but not as many that are as big of a flop as Haye, like I said in heavyweights the closest we can recently come is Kevin Johnson.

Haye refused to fight, he didn't even try to go for the KO...it was appalling.

That being said, Nicolay Valuev is starting to get a bit mouthy now too...I hope he fights Wlad, that's another fraud that needs to be taught a lesson.

[Mars_ax]

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Would they not have a case then?

Not if they thought he was anywhere close to being as good of a HW as Lewis. I mean WTF am I saying wrong here, I'm not saying all fans in the UK worshipped and overrated Haye to the hilt, but plenty did. You live there Memphis so you oughta know better then me, look at how many delusional Haye fans showed up in Hamburg expecting to see Wlad get knocked out.

Dude. It was a HEAVYWEIGHT SUPERFIGHT. Even if David Haye was Eritrean, you can bet your last dollar that there would of been 10,000 Eritreans in Hamburg that night.

Nope, I don't buy that, only 10,000 Brits, would have shown up in Hamburg.

[mattboxingfan]

When you are fighting, you're fighting for one thing....money. Jack Dempsey

How was anyone that enjoyed the night a "gulliable nitwit?" That doesn't make sense. Wlad is universally recognised as a "boring" fighter. Has this somehow changed after his performance Saturday?

The only people fooled were guys expecting a Rocky fight. Simple as.

Sure it's about money, but what Jack might have added is, don't promise your fans the moon, put on a shitty performance and just take their money either.

Yes, Fenster, some of Wlad's fights are boring, that's a given, however, you expect to get what you get from Wlad, but I can't help but like the big Ukranian a bit.

Come on bro, lot's a people were fooled by Haye, he had half of UK's boxing fans duped into believing he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. And don't try telling me that most of his fans in the UK didn't think they were going to see something like Wlad vs Sanders. FACT!

Anyway Fenster, try not to get so emotional, and look at things from a more a more objective point of view.

cheers

Are you trying to challenge Generalbulldog for Saddo's P4P most clueless world-view poster?

I've never seen a single person EVER say Haye was the next Lennox Lewis. More than half the UK posters on this site thought Haye was going to lose.

For a 60+ year-old guy surely Haye isn't the first fighter you've irrationally hated? I'm surprised you've lasted this long showing such venom for one man? Amazing.

Clueless about what? Are you going to deny that half of Britain's boxing fans thought this clown was the greatest British HW since LL?

Like i've told you before Fenster, I can't stand anything about Haye, but he ain't worth the effort it would take to hate him. You seem to not be able to differentiate, between simple criticism and hate, and you become defensive, "irrational", and overly emotional, when you believe your boy Haye is being attacked.

Even though you might not think so, Haye is deserving of ANY criticism he's getting, "hate" and has little to do with it, it's all fun and games.

Where did you get your 'half of England thought Haye was the second coming of Lewis?' I've never seen that posted on this forum nor have i ever heard anyone say it. Your from the US? What the hell do you know about British boxing fans? You've been wrongly informed. You seem to get very emotional not only at Haye but at his fans its like you can't stand anything to do with David Haye. Tha would be called hate.

[Mars_ax]

Haye would've "gotten the last laugh" if he had actually done what he said he was going to do... win the heavyweight title.

He gets the last laugh because he walks away with $40 million for basically just running his mouth and showing up.

[mattboxingfan]

Mars -> twat.

[Taffturner]

I agree haye was dissapointing but haye has always been value 4money before, he normally backs up his mouth, at least he stood 4 12 rounds with wlad and didnt end up getting jabbed to a tko like most of wlads victims,

After everything is said and done, Haye will make, what, 15£ million or $40 million American off this farce of a fight? Say what you want about Haye, but that was pretty damn good con job if you ask me, and all he had to do, was land 6 punches a round.

It's hard to imagine Haye getting a rematch with Wlad anytime soon, but my guess is the same gulliable nitwits who were suckered in, and wasted PPV money on Haye's shit sandwich last time, will be back licking his nuts and pissing their money away on him again next year.

Life is good for David Haye, he's rich and famous, and the love from his fans is unconditional and/or eternal.

Yep - Like I said before - Haye is the Enron of boxing duping many fans out of their hard earned money. I feel especially sorry for all those suckers that traveled from Briton or anywhere else to Germany to support Haye. They must feel totally ripped off.

[Memphis]

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything

As opposed to accurate? factual? take your pick

[Mars_ax]

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything

As opposed to accurate? factual? take your pick

Hey, what else would you expect from a daft yank.

I never learn, why debate a Brit or a woman, you'll never win or get the last word.

[Fenster]

You said half of Britain thought he was the next coming of Lennox Lewis. Prove it?

If you care so little for Haye why keep making threads and posts about him? None of which are positive.

I haven't defended Haye over a thing. Merely countering some uncalled-for nonsense

Oh really? Like none of what you've posted in the endless post fight threads has been about defending Haye?

Like I said, Haye deserves everything that's coming his way, he brought it on himself, as for negative posts and threads about him. I haven't gone overboard posting threads about him, i'm just countering some uncalled-for bullshit by Haye and his fans and, telling it the way I see it..

You'd have to show me what i've been defending?

Barring the accusation that he's a coward, which is pathetic, I haven't defended anything else.

This thread you've started was about Haye making tons of money. I agreed with you.

Have I ever denied he lost? No.
Did I defend the toe excuse? No.

I don't believe his performance was as horrible as most. I don't think I was conned. I enjoyed the whole event.

Not sure what you're getting at? I guess you can't prove half of British fans thought he was the next Lennox Lewis then?

I was entertained by by the fight, but that was only because Wlad dominated. As for Haye's performance, fer christ sakes man, he landed 6 punches a round, less than half of the 13 he averaged in the Valuev stinker, and fell down about 12 times, how was it not Horrible? Especially in view of the fact that he'd been talking continuous shit about how he was going to decapitate Wlad for months prior to the fight, then fought like a douche.

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything, it just seemed like 1/2 of British boxing fans had this chump overrated to the hilt, and were betting on him, and predicting that he'd KO Wlad within a couple rounds. What did the pre-fight polls for this fight look like in the UK?

Well you are wrong.

Sorry if I enjoyed it.

Oh and your punchstats are wrong (although they all could be considering two seperate souces have differing numbers). I believe Haye threw not landed only 13 punches per round against Valuev. Hope this helps.

[El Kabong]

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything

As opposed to accurate? factual? take your pick

....Like you've never heard of hyperbole Jesus

[Memphis]

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything

As opposed to accurate? factual? take your pick

Hey, what else would you expect from a daft yank.

I never learn, why debate a Brit or a woman, you'll never win or get the last word.

Have you considered being right about something, anything? It does help my man

[Memphis]

As for my LL comment that was figurative more then anything

As opposed to accurate? factual? take your pick

....Like you've never heard of hyperbole Jesus

Never heard of him, is he the guy thats going to break the US heavyweight drought?