But Can We Admit the Fact That...

[ninjaspy3]

Ninja bud did you hurt your toe as well I mean I am as stubborn and loyal as the next guy but really mate you've moved beyond putting lipstick on a pig to going for the full scale fashion show. Respectfully man this is far beyond a reach.

So Haye won a couple rounds. In fantasy land where Unicorns gallop and Championship fights are set for 4 rounds that's something to hang your hat on but the fact that his scale tilts far more convincingly to the 'L' in the biggest fight of his professional life will be first and foremost. I really don't think you do him any favors at all by using some also rans as a measuring stick for his accomplishments vs Wlad where it's as plain as day that his sence of self preservation trumped his confidence and belief in victory. You don't get to to 'kind of' lose like that or be awarded brownie points for moral victory on a Championship elite level.

Im not trying to do Haye any favors. Im posting this because with some of the comments, I feel like maybe somehow people's grip on reality got lost somewhere. As long as we have been watching Wlad fight, as many grim performances as we have seen, and it seemd like everyone has amneisia now, and somehow this is the worst thing that has ever happened. I just think people's negativity toward this fight is ilogical and over the top considering the fights that took place before.

[generalbulldog]

Da Chavs ov Britain r still down wit da Hayemaker. Ya na mean bruv?

[Gandalf]

Da Chavs ov Britain r still down wit da Hayemaker. Ya na mean bruv?

You are starting to annoy me with your anti-Brit thing. The chavs are no different to your trailer trash. Why do you feel the need to constantly attack the Brits? You have a god awful sub population too, and yet you ignore that.

I only ever attack your political elite, but you seem to really hate English people. You are better than that.

[generalbulldog]

Da Chavs ov Britain r still down wit da Hayemaker. Ya na mean bruv?

You are starting to annoy me with your anti-Brit thing. The chavs are no different to your trailer trash. Why do you feel the need to constantly attack the Brits? You have a god awful sub population too, and yet you ignore that.

I only ever attack your political elite, but you seem to really hate English people. You are better than that.

As you Brits say, it's just taking the piss.

[Gandalf]

Da Chavs ov Britain r still down wit da Hayemaker. Ya na mean bruv?

You are starting to annoy me with your anti-Brit thing. The chavs are no different to your trailer trash. Why do you feel the need to constantly attack the Brits? You have a god awful sub population too, and yet you ignore that.

I only ever attack your political elite, but you seem to really hate English people. You are better than that.

As you Brits say, it's just taking the piss.

In that case it's okay. I hate inbreds as much as anyone.Brits, yanks, koreans....i hate all their inbreds.

[ninjaspy3]

Very well. I give up. But some of you guys should really re-watch some of those "classic" fights.
That may help provide a little perspective.

[El Kabong]

Very well. I give up. But some of you guys should really re-watch some of those "classic" fights.
That may help provide a little perspective.

....Cheer up, there's good news for Haye and his fans.

Odlanier Solis' manager just called Haye out....perfect comeback fight IMO. Avenge an amateur loss, go for a KO vs one of the "heavyweight bums" he called out in the past.

Though I highly doubt 50k show up to watch that....it would still be a good fight for Haye.

[Mars_ax]

Very well. I give up. But some of you guys should really re-watch some of those "classic" fights.
That may help provide a little perspective.

It might help if we knew what the point of your OP was, am I missing something? Those "classic" fights have fuck all to do with the HAREmaker's shitty performance, and Wlad is what he is.

[AdamGB]

Da Chavs ov Britain r still down wit da Hayemaker. Ya na mean bruv?

Most 'Chavs' hate David Haye and wanted to see him knocked out. But with your informed world view you'd know that.

If you were a bit more clued up you'd be able to also see that those two are clearly posing at a fancy dress party or something... that's an extreme parody of Britian's favourite underclass... but even the worst of them don't actually wear giant dollar signs and double hoop ear rings... good god.

[TitoFan]

All this incessant bantering about Haye and Wlad is pointless, really. The fight did NOT live up to pre-fight expectations (oh.... except for Fenster, who knew all along we were all being taken for a ride..... oh, you genius Fenster you). The real loser here was boxing, which as we all know has a dwindling fan base and seriously needs a good "pick-me-up." I imagine if Boxing and the Casual Fan had had a conversation, it must've gone something like this:

Boxing: Pssssst.... hey, don't miss out on the upcoming Wlad-Haye fight. Look at all the highlight reels of Haye knockouts. Look at all the venom Haye is spouting. Look and hear what Haye is promising to do to Wlad. This will be the biggest HW event in years.

Casual Fan: No way! I've been THAT road before. You're just trying to get me interested again, just so I can suffer another disappointment. I thought Wlad vs. Peter was going to be good. I thought Sultan was a real danger to Wlad and would be a good fight. I'm DONE with the heavyweights. There hasn't been anything worth looking at since the Tyson-Lewis-Holyfield days.

Boxing: No.... no..... I really mean it this time. I promise it'll be a good fight. Scout's honor. This guy's fast..... this guy's smart..... this guy's got power. And he ain't scared. Again, hear what he's saying he's going to do to Wlad.

Casual Fan: Aww gee..... I don't know. I'd hate to be disillusioned again. Too many more of these, and I'm gonna swear off boxing altogether. You KNOW how I only care about the heavyweights. As the big guys go.... so does my interest in boxing.

Boxing: You won't regret it.


(Boxing walks off..... a slight smile creeping across its face. In the background, an evil giggling noise can be heard.

[Fenster]

Jesus christ!!! Get over it you sad bastard.

The fight was between a man that is CONSTANTLY accused of being BORING, so much so that HBO stopped showing his fights, and a man that averaged 13 punches a round winning the WBA title.

Any hardcore fan that thought it would be Gatti-Ward, just because of Haye's expert promotion and Wlad being so "offended" by Haye's expert promotion, is a gullible fool.

The "excitement" factor was either man could end it with ONE shot. It didn't happen so we got a stinker. End of.

[boozeboxer]

Jesus christ!!! Get over it you sad bastard.

The fight was between a man that is CONSTANTLY accused of being BORING, so much so that HBO stopped showing his fights, and a man that averaged 13 punches a round winning the WBA title.

Any hardcore fan that thought it would be Gatti-Ward, just because of Haye's expert promotion and Wlad being so "offended" by Haye's expert promotion, is a gullible fool.

The "excitement" factor was either man could end it with ONE shot. It didn't happen so we got a stinker. End of.

Pretty concise review of the situation.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I would love to hear the HBO commentary for this fight because I have a feeling Larry & Jim were spitting venom

[Mars_ax]

I would love to hear the HBO commentary for this fight because I have a feeling Larry & Jim were spitting venom

Merchant was disgusted with Haye's performance, and to a lessor degree Lampley was too, I can't say I don't agree.

[TitoFan]

Jesus christ!!! Get over it you sad bastard.

The fight was between a man that is CONSTANTLY accused of being BORING, so much so that HBO stopped showing his fights, and a man that averaged 13 punches a round winning the WBA title.

Any hardcore fan that thought it would be Gatti-Ward, just because of Haye's expert promotion and Wlad being so "offended" by Haye's expert promotion, is a gullible fool.

The "excitement" factor was either man could end it with ONE shot. It didn't happen so we got a stinker. End of.

Nobody was expecting Gatti-Ward, genius. We WERE, however.... expecting a decent fight. Is that too much to ask? Even from a "boring" fighter and a loud-mouth idiot? It WAS, after all, a heavyweight championship fight. Or are your standards so low you don't give a shit how fights turn out?

It was "a stinker.... end of"? That's precisely my point, genius. My point is that boxing desperately needs a good heavyweight fight and/or rivalry..... and under this desperation people are willing to believe things they wouldn't normally believe. And they bought into Haye's hype. I myself haven't watched too many Haye fights, so I'm not the authority you are (obviously) as far as what Haye's chances were against Wlad.

While you and a few others are quick to dismiss Haye's disgraceful showing as "just another stinker", I choose to wring my hands a little bit over the disappointment I and few others felt with the fight. But I know you're smugly above it all, with your witty comments and all that.

You look at it as just another "stinker"....... I look at it as a major disappointment.
NOW it's end of.