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    Default Re: Is Pongsaklek the Greatest of Thailand?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    He fought a guy this year who was 0-2-0, WTF is that? You have to ask yourself this question, how would Pong go against Jorge Arce at 112 or Vic Darchinyan? Arce was dynamite at 112 and Vic is probably one of the the 3 biggest hitters at 112 ever? I doubt Pong would last 3 rounds with either of them. Pong hasn't fought anybody of note and has no credibility at all.
    I would agree with you but those are just stay busy fights..He fights guys like that inbetween big name bouts to keep sharp,,,If you notice his belt is not on the line nor are those fights even publicized...Plus they are all guys from in or around Thailand he is highly revered there and it is actyually an honor just to be in with him....He does not count them towars his legacy......You also have to remember what division he is in...not much money nor top names to face so he hjas to eat as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    He fought a guy this year who was 0-2-0, WTF is that? You have to ask yourself this question, how would Pong go against Jorge Arce at 112 or Vic Darchinyan? Arce was dynamite at 112 and Vic is probably one of the the 3 biggest hitters at 112 ever? I doubt Pong would last 3 rounds with either of them. Pong hasn't fought anybody of note and has no credibility at all.
    I would agree with you but those are just stay busy fights..He fights guys like that inbetween big name bouts to keep sharp,,,If you notice his belt is not on the line nor are those fights even publicized...Plus they are all guys from in or around Thailand he is highly revered there and it is actyually an honor just to be in with him....He does not count them towars his legacy......You also have to remember what division he is in...not much money nor top names to face so he hjas to eat as well
    Pong lives in and around an area that has plenty of 112 fighters from the Philippines, Japan and even Australia. If it's money he wants you can't tell me he couldn't organise a good fight with a Filipino in Manilla or Cebu, if he is having stay busy fights and they are in fact exhibitions he should clearly state that. I realise he is a drawcard in Thailand and he is probably doing tours, but at the end of the day it is difficult to rate a fighter who is fighting someone with a 0-2-0 record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
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    He fought a guy this year who was 0-2-0, WTF is that? You have to ask yourself this question, how would Pong go against Jorge Arce at 112 or Vic Darchinyan? Arce was dynamite at 112 and Vic is probably one of the the 3 biggest hitters at 112 ever? I doubt Pong would last 3 rounds with either of them. Pong hasn't fought anybody of note and has no credibility at all.
    I would agree with you but those are just stay busy fights..He fights guys like that inbetween big name bouts to keep sharp,,,If you notice his belt is not on the line nor are those fights even publicized...Plus they are all guys from in or around Thailand he is highly revered there and it is actyually an honor just to be in with him....He does not count them towars his legacy......You also have to remember what division he is in...not much money nor top names to face so he hjas to eat as well
    Pong lives in and around an area that has plenty of 112 fighters from the Philippines, Japan and even Australia. If it's money he wants you can't tell me he couldn't organise a good fight with a Filipino in Manilla or Cebu, if he is having stay busy fights and they are in fact exhibitions he should clearly state that. I realise he is a drawcard in Thailand and he is probably doing tours, but at the end of the day it is difficult to rate a fighter who is fighting someone with a 0-2-0 record.

    I am not saying those bouts should be counted as part of his ranking etc...Just saying reasons why those take place...He is not the only top rated fighter to ever do such things...Ever take a close look at the records of guys like JCC or SRR closely? Look at the records of some of their comp when they were champions or near prime.....Not puttong pong in same class but just he is not the only one to ever do such things is all
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    Default Re: Is Pongsaklek the Greatest of Thailand?

    Stay busy fights or not it's utter shit to see that happen...

    Again, look up Lito Sisneros and tell me it's just stay busy fights.

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    Who he fights in non-title fights might be reason to dislike him, but I'm not sure it affects his legacy. Take away all those fights and look at his resume that way. Then tell me he doesn't have a good claim. I don't think he's any lower than 2 or 3 all time in Thailand, any way you wanna cut it.

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