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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    Cook looks like he's shitting it.

    Because of the fight or the dive he's gonna make?
    What's this dive thing about?

    I was watching the Copa America on the other channel in between fights.
    Bookies stopped taking bets due to suspicious betting patterns relating to Burns winning via KO in 3rd. So we were watching for that. Cook obviously misheard the message though.
    It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

    But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.
    That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

    The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.
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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

    If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
    If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

    I hope Mitchell does it though.
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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

    If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
    If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

    I hope Mitchell does it though.

    Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

    Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
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    Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

    If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
    If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

    I hope Mitchell does it though.

    Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

    Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe
    I did not like that 2nd round at all. Get on your bike Mitchell!
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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    For all the Mark Burdiss fans, here he is as Don King!


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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
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    Ok, Mitchell -Murray.

    If Mitchell is fit, focused and sharp I think he wins via mid-late round KO.
    If however he isn't (I don't think he will be) I think Murray will blast him out in about 4/5/6.

    I hope Mitchell does it though.

    Hope mitchell does it too. Me and my bro been discussing the fight a lot this week and we both decided it hinges on what mitchell turns up. he has had a lot of problems and a 3 month training camp is not enough to undo nearly a year of bad living.

    Watching it now and Mitchell is doing himself no favours going toe to toe
    I did not like that 2nd round at all. Get on your bike Mitchell!
    He does need to get on that bike and stay off the ropes, he doesn't look strong enough to trade for long periods compared to murray

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Murray needs to get warned about that measuring with the left hand bollocks

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    They keep going on about the Prescott fight, but it wasn't like that was a shut-out. Most on here had it 8-4 or 9-3. I mean a clear win, but they act like it was Mayweather-Baldomir.

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder
    It's not gonna be a good idea to throw either of them in with Bam-Bam, think he is just too damn strong!
    Time for a brew...

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Why is this fat fuck of a ref waddling about with a pervy smile on his face while he lets Murray measure with the left & punch Mitchell in the back as he holds him down??!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Either of these guys against Brandon Rios is akin to sanctioned murder
    I think Antillon schools either of these guys too.
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    Murray wants to fight on the inside, the problem is he sucks at it.
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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Why do I just the feeling Mitchell is mentally going to wilt with all the pressure & leaning on that Murray is doing

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    Default Re: UK Boxing - Bellew/McKenzie --- Burns/Cook --- Murray/Mitchell - Discussion Threa

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    It definitely looks dodgy. I mean in his defence I will say that I've fractured my hand & broken my nose in the ring & the adrenaline gets you through it, but the time that I pulled a muscle in my lower back (thankfully only in sparring) I was completely unable to do anything.

    But, the issue is that if it was that bad then I don't know how he passed tests & how he trained through it. The fact it got mentioned in advance is dodge. Add in the betting thing & this looks very, very wrong. I agree with Ed, that was a farce.
    That's the thing. This looks too wrong now. I was joking about Cook taking a dive before but really hoped it wouldn't happen.

    The only 'out' I see is that all the money piled in on Burns via KO due to insider knowledge that there was no way Cook was able to go the distance due to his back rather than a dive as such.
    I'm normally the last to accuse a fighter of something like this. I mentioned Liston, Seldon & Briggs above, but in all those cases I think there's reason to believe that they simply got blasted (Liston from another angle did appear to get hit hard & did try to carry on, Seldon was shit & Briggs was reportedly having the same things happening every day in sparring).

    Unfortunately here, the way he seemed to almost turn his back into it, just gives me have the gut feeling that he threw it. I really hope I'm wrong.

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