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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.
    I agree with you.

    He was basically handed the belt when they put him against Hatton lol. They wanna make some money out of him before they put him against more dangerous fighters who could potentially beat him.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.
    I agree with you.

    He was basically handed the belt when they put him against Hatton lol. They wanna make some money out of him before they put him against more dangerous fighters who could potentially beat him.
    yeah definitely all about money, shame.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    I read Mayorga was seriously considered as an opponent for Alvarez, but Goldenboy feared Don King would want too much money for the fight.

    THAT would have been a lot better of a fight and a lot more of a test.

    Simply compare how Gomez and Mayorga did against Miguel Cotto.

    Cotto toyed with Alvarez before destroying him.

    Cotto had a tough go of it with Mayorga last time out before hookin him in the 12th when Mayorga went for broke, then faked a damn hand injury upon being rocked.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I read Mayorga was seriously considered as an opponent for Alvarez, but Goldenboy feared Don King would want too much money for the fight.

    THAT would have been a lot better of a fight and a lot more of a test.

    Simply compare how Gomez and Mayorga did against Miguel Cotto.

    Cotto toyed with Alvarez before destroying him.

    Cotto had a tough go of it with Mayorga last time out before hookin him in the 12th when Mayorga went for broke, then faked a damn hand injury upon being rocked.
    Mayorga is a strong guy to put down Cotto and Mosley had trouble doing the job but both got them at the 12.. I would love to see how Canelo would do. That being said, I think Alfonso is an okay opponent due to his popularity. But so many other fighters I would love to see him fight than him.

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    Apparently the winner gets a shot at Anthony 'The World's Greatest Dad' Bonsante
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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.
    But he doesn't!

    Look the kid is still a prospect and should be brought along like one.
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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.
    But he doesn't!

    Look the kid is still a prospect and should be brought along like one.
    It speaks volumes to the emptiness of holding a title than, rather calling yourself a 'champion' as long as the pockets are deep enough and we fall for the rock star label he is being rushed to market with. Can't have it both ways, but we're falling for it more and more.

    This is a paid infomercial passed off as a Championship match on the premier network for boxing. Yet again.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armyash View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Alvarez is being spoon fed.

    It's only his second defence of the title so I'm not too annoyed.

    Hopefully they step up his level of competition soon though.
    Surely to have the right to call yourself champ you should be prepared to fight anyone and everyone.

    Stepping up after winning the title sounds stupid. Supposed to step up gradually until you reach the title.
    But he doesn't!

    Look the kid is still a prospect and should be brought along like one.
    It speaks volumes to the emptiness of holding a title than, rather calling yourself a 'champion' as long as the pockets are deep enough and we fall for the rock star label he is being rushed to market with. Can't have it both ways, but we're falling for it more and more.

    This is a paid infomercial passed off as a Championship match on the premier network for boxing. Yet again.
    It's our own fault. Kellerman put it perfectly when he said (paraphrase) "belts today are not signs of achievement, they are marketing tools."

    And too many of us subscribe to it. Alvarez is no more a champion than I am. He's a prospect, a promising one, with a lot of work to do and that is how he should be brought along and in my view, how we ought to judge the fight choices.
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    Man gomez is not great but I think we are being a little harsh on him. He is prob better than Matthew hatton.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    I think some of you guys are a bit clueless about modern boxing to be honest. Holding a paper belt hasn't been seen as significant in terms of evaluating a fighters worth for many years but you all still react as if something shocking is taking place.

    The only belt that matters is the Ring Belt, the alphabet titles just now exist to give fighters marketability, nobody in boxing is saying Canelo is the best at light middle, nor at 21 years of age does he need to be fighting them.

    Just let him grow and develop and the better competition will follow.

    As for Gomez being a joke. Really, why? Because he was on the Contender?

    Since losing to Cotto he's been on a very decent run and would be just as deserving of a shot at Bundrage's belt or any of the other champs out there.

    He ended the effective career of Jose Luis Castillo and got a win over Soto Karass where he was boxing very well and controlling the fight. Karass certainly looked a lot better against Mike Jones.

    Gomez is the kind of opponent Canelo needs right now. Someone who will be a live opponent, will test him, but shouldn't derail him.

    You people would make the worst boxing matchmakers, you just always want to match a guy so he gets beat and that's it.

    This is a decent matchup.

    The fact that it's for an alphabet strap has no real significance beyond being a little extra to help sell the fight.
    Last edited by Kev; 07-20-2011 at 07:08 PM.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    It's our own fault. Kellerman put it perfectly when he said (paraphrase) "belts today are not signs of achievement, they are marketing tools."

    And too many of us subscribe to it. Alvarez is no more a champion than I am. He's a prospect, a promising one, with a lot of work to do and that is how he should be brought along and in my view, how we ought to judge the fight choices.
    I'm no fan of the alphabets, but if you seriously believe that you're completely off your rocker

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    What Interrim champions , gold and silver champions a complete farce , sanction fees my friend thats all they mean .

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberto duran legend View Post
    What Interrim champions , gold and silver champions a complete farce , sanction fees my friend thats all they mean .
    Did I say I was a fan? I don't rate them, but winning even a worthless paper belt in the ring makes you more of a champ than posting on a boxing website. Fact.

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    Default Re: SERIOUS!!! Saul Alvarez vs Alfonso Gomez

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui View Post
    It's our own fault. Kellerman put it perfectly when he said (paraphrase) "belts today are not signs of achievement, they are marketing tools."

    And too many of us subscribe to it. Alvarez is no more a champion than I am. He's a prospect, a promising one, with a lot of work to do and that is how he should be brought along and in my view, how we ought to judge the fight choices.
    I'm no fan of the alphabets, but if you seriously believe that you're completely off your rocker
    Alvarez has ZERO legitimate claim to being CHAMPION. None. (Neither do I)
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