Any final thoughts on Wlad vs Haye?

[El Kabong]

I wouldn't waste my time arguing with erics44 it simply doesn't compute in his warped little nationalistic ginger brain that people may actually enjoy watching Klitschko (Wlad or Vitali) fight. I thought Wlad vs Tony Thompson was not only entertaining but competitive.

And for anyone looking for "in shape" heavyweights the following fighters have always been in good shape for their fights: Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Boytsov, Chagaev, Wilder (perhaps TOO skinny), Kubrat Pulev, Evander Holyfield (old, but still in great shape), Jonathan Banks, Seth Mitchell. Those guys never show up fat.

Lyle I laughed when I read your list! Maybe true but sad.

I could have added more but had to stop somewhere. I think the whole "in shape" issue with heavyweights comes down to a few guys in recent history George Foreman, Donovan Ruddock, David Tua, Kirk Johnson, Cris Arreola, and Sam Peter. Foreman was in great shape for as old as he was but he didn't look like a pro athlete...he punched like one though. Ruddock had all the skill in the world and ate himself out of contention. Tua was a high workrate/power puncher the likes of which we haven't seen since Marciano, but being Samoan he wound up fat and sluggish. Johnson, Arreola, and Peter were all guys that people gave a decent chance to beat the Klitschko's. They were skilled fighters but on the biggest fights of their careers they showed up in horrible shape...though Sam Peter did have better conditioning in the rematch he just didn't box well. Everyone else is good for the most part. Not every heavyweight is going to look like Adonis...look at Ali, Frazier, Holmes....not intimidating when it comes to being built like a brick shithouse, but strap some gloves on them and they'll work you over!

Erics44 yes I enjoyed the Thompson fight, Tony gave a great account of himself as did Wlad and Wlad was the first and only fight to KO Thompson to this point in his career. I enjoy most of Wlad's fights because people always say "Wlad's got no chin, no heart, no stamina"....yet he still has won 56 fights and has 49 KO's?!? The division may be weak but you've still got to be a damn good boxer to do what Wlad has done, especially with the vulnerabilities people say he has.

Do you think Paul Williams wishes he had Wlad's skill instead of getting KTFO by Sergio??