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    Default Re: Is Zab Judah an Elite fighter ?

    I don't disagree with any of that really. The Ring have Judah at 6 also.

    Regarding the fight against Khan itself I expect Khan to beat him convincingly down the stretch.

    I also don't like that he's being trained by Pernell Whittaker. When I saw that I just immediately thought of Micky Ward with Arturo Gatti.

    I think Judah will wilt and give up around rounds 7 or 8 and then be content to just survive.

    He will dangerous early though and he's clearly the best of all available opponents out there for Khan, would have much rather have been facing Tim Bradley.

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    Default Re: Is Zab Judah an Elite fighter ?

    I voted no, but don't really disagree with any of the posts in this thread. It all depends what you take elite to mean. Saying Judah is so at 140 though, is really only because there are no great fighters currently in the division, at least imo. For me an elite fighter should be a legitimate threat to anybody more or less their size. Judah was basically beaten out of the WW division, and the best guys he didn't fight would've been and still would be solid favourites over him. He's certainly not much smaller than pretty well anyone who has beaten him. Definetly think he's a good opponent for Khan though, but mainly because Khan has shown to be quite vulnerable.

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    Default Re: Is Zab Judah an Elite fighter ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I don't disagree with any of that really. The Ring have Judah at 6 also.

    Regarding the fight against Khan itself I expect Khan to beat him convincingly down the stretch.

    I also don't like that he's being trained by Pernell Whittaker. When I saw that I just immediately thought of Micky Ward with Arturo Gatti.

    I think Judah will wilt and give up around rounds 7 or 8 and then be content to just survive.

    He will dangerous early though and he's clearly the best of all available opponents out there for Khan, would have much rather have been facing Tim Bradley.
    I agree.

    I think Judah will be dangerous early as always. He will probably catch Khan with a good left hand a couple of times and rock him.

    Judah will fade though and i see Khan taking over with his jab and workrate, maybe stopping him late, I see it most likely being a decision win for Khan though, like 9 rounds to 3.

    I see it sort of going like Khan's fight against Paulie but with Judah having success early with southpaw stance and left hand.

    I hope Tim Bradley is next also. I'm a Bradley fan so i wanna see it happen bad.

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    Default Re: Is Zab Judah an Elite fighter ?

    using "elite" to mean simply among the best in /around his weight class, I might be tempted to say yes considering if he could put forth one great performance, he might be able to take down anyone with a belt.
    Taking into account some of the people he lost to or got gift decisions over, or who took him deeper than they should. I can't say yes anymore. Elite fighters don't lose to those guys or survive fighting those guys in that fashion. Everyone's got that scrub that will always give them problems. (let say we pencil in baldomir as that). There's still other fighters that raise question about Judah still having it anymore. Whats worse is that when you look at the things that follow the other questionable/poor performances, the only factor in common is Judah and his mush mouth father. (not fighting other southpaws, or in other countries, or draining himself down)... Based on that .. i have to say no. Even if he wins, he still wont be an elite fighter. If he wins, more people will still be talking about Kahn (good night/bad night? glass jaw/ lucky shot?) despite Judah supposedly rededicating himself and now having sweet pea in his corner... That says a lot about where Judah ranks among his peers.
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