If Pac was Juicing (Doubt he is) it would not affect his legacy

[Master]

I hate to even think that these great fighters have used drugs, they are heroes.

[armyash]

I know it is down to the fighters own responsibility to know what is going in to their body but they employ the top nutritionists/dieticians and whoever else they can to get them in the best possible shape....but they pay a huge amount for these services by people who probably have more qualifications than i can dream of so they put a massive amount of trust in these people too.

Some people are just plain cheaters who will do anything possible to gain an advantage even if it means possibly causing permanent damage to another human being. Disgraceful.

For others it can be down to naivety,

take for example Vargas. His hatred for DLH was well documented and appeared very genuine. From early in his career he was calling for Oscar to fight him and always showed his willingness to fight him even when hugely inexperienced by comparison. Vargas was extremely popular and his heart was huge. I was a massive fan. I believe his passion for the sport was true and his career was always geared towards DLH. I don't believe he knowingly took an illegal substance, when going for the biggest fight of his life. Can you imagine what the win would have meant to him only to risk having it taken away from a stupid mistake. Vargas was all about pride and even though he had a lot of people who were not fans and slagged him off afterwards he did hold his hands up and admitted to a mistake and took his punishment.

I don't know what i believe regarding Pac but there's a lot of people to benefit if he is on PEDs. Pacman is not just a fighter he is an industry, a business with a lot of people on the payroll. A lot of big businesses i'm sure have a lot of shady dealings in order to stay ahead of the rest.

I'm a massive fan of his regardless but i think it would affect his legacy as he has accomplished so much that would become tainted.

He has every right to not agree to PBF's demands but his excuses are shit, if Money is prepared to take the same tests at the same notice and as close to the fight as needs be and face the physical disadvantages that may arise then there is no reason for Pac to not be prepared to do it.

Every man has his pride and he doesn't want to give Floyd the mental edge by giving in but in the grand scheme of things if he is 100% clean and 100% certain of victory then there is only 1 logical thing to do, and that pac is take the test

[piye]

I hate to even think that these great fighters have used drugs, they are heroes.

I think this is the general attitude and the reason fight fans choose to ignore cheating.

[imp]

I hate to even think that these great fighters have used drugs, they are heroes.

I think this is the general attitude and the reason fight fans choose to ignore cheating.

Stupid thing to say that tested positive for drugs should not affect his legacy..tell that to marion jones. A cheat is a cheat. Cheat your fans, family and most important yourself. Manny prob is clean, who knows..he still wont take the test. Was he on steriods when morales schooled his arse.

[piye]

I'm not saying that it should not affect the legacy it clearly should my point is that in boxing it won't! James Toney is still looked upon as a legend despite being caught twice.

[imp]

I'm not saying that it should not affect the legacy it clearly should my point is that in boxing it won't! James Toney is still looked upon as a legend despite being caught twice.

Fair enough. I see your point. Still wrong though. Just makes clean fighters more suberb in my eyes..

[Pavlik]

it will, as innocent as pac is right now some hate him already. imagine if he actually did.

[Gandalf]

Stick to media studies, you silly cunt.

Of course it would affect his legacy if caught juicing.

[boxingbantz]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - all fighters should be allowed to juice. Spinach, roids, peds - they should be able to put anything they want in their bodies. Maybe a line of coke pre fight to get them really charged. Imagine Vitali on a ridiculous amount of 'roids (in the pros). He would be like a real life Ivan Drago. It would be fantastic.

[Master]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - all fighters should be allowed to juice. Spinach, roids, peds - they should be able to put anything they want in their bodies. Maybe a line of coke pre fight to get them really charged. Imagine Vitali on a ridiculous amount of 'roids (in the pros). He would be like a real life Ivan Drago. It would be fantastic.

Then it would not be a competition about who is the best fighter but who is the best scientist that can come up with the best drug.

[mafiajoey]

Who cares is he was juicing or not.... ( For Sure He Was ) cuz now that he is broke he will have to lay off the juice while Floyd whips that ass... I can't wait to here all of you Pac boys response when Floyd dominates him. Now that Pac is broke he will insist that Bob quit avoiding the fight and Bob will cash in one last time. Pac is a FRAUD

[piye]

Pac is an ATG one of the era's best and certainly no fraud.

[johnsebastianmiran]

PAC will be PAC because although the juice gives you size and strength, it doesn't mean a thing because it is still the performance of the man beneath all that hype. There are many bodybuilders on the juice but only one gets first place. The juice does not guarantee a win. You'll look better sometimes but looking good and actually fighting good have nothing to do with each other, once again it's the man inside the muscle not the one that is a wanna be and never could be or never was.

[mugabi]

of course...more so with him because its so rare for his country to have a boxing icon...imagine a boxing hero and a congressman at that juicing? That is why i dont believe the guy is on that shit. Hell, its basic logic..put yourself in his shoes. You have evrything in the world... would you risk ruining it all? Even urine testing could exposed you given its not entirely effective- more so with blood testing. Point is..if .pac is juicing..he wont even agree to a compromised blood testing.

[xtianco]

I hate to even think that these great fighters have used drugs, they are heroes.

yes.. heroes!