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    Default Re: Barrera vs. Princess Hamed

    There is no reason to demean Hamed by calling him Princess. Not valuable boxing criticism at all.

    He provided a dangerous and unorthodox approach which made his fights interesting as hell. Thing about unschooled and unorthodox combined with lots of natural ability is that it will do very well when it has lots of energy going but it will always lose to the best schooled orthodoxy carefully applied by a master.

    Barrera proves it.

    It is indeed regretable that Hamed didn't take that wild natural ability and, without losing his unorthodox infusion of energy and angles, also learn the science.

    He had a wicked talent and mistook that for an invincibility provided by Allah. It was not; at least, not in the way he believed.

    I am more a fan of MAB than of Hamed but did enjoy watching Hamed fight and was disappointed to see him unable to handle a loss and to see him abandon boxing when Allah did not ensure a victory in every fight. MAB, Allah and the science of boxing all deserve more investment, humility and respect than Hamed was able to bring.

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    Barera beats Naz 9 times out of 10 imo - he just had his number. It doesn't detract from what Naz was or what he achieved imo. No great shame in losing to an ATG (Maybe some shame in not coming back from the defeat)

    Naz was bookies favourite both sides of the atlantic (personally I never saw why) so he must've been doing O.K up that point?
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    I agree mab had naz's number, alotho i belive naz had lost respect for the sport by that fight maybe got too big even 4his own boots!! I think naz was favourite alot because he was so good at been unorthadox! He must of been a nightmare to fight throwing heavy punches from daft angles, awsum speed and reactation time, and just so cocky im sure that took certain fighters eyes off the balls, mab deserves masses of credit 4givin naz a lesson in boxing! Im not sure if many others (maybe morales) could of beaten naz's style??
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    Barera beats Naz 9 times out of 10 imo - he just had his number. It doesn't detract from what Naz was or what he achieved imo. No great shame in losing to an ATG (Maybe some shame in not coming back from the defeat)

    Naz was bookies favourite both sides of the atlantic (personally I never saw why) so he must've been doing O.K up that point?

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    You get full of yourself and Allah leaves you to it.
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    Those thick tree trunk legs and great flexibility around the waist had him coming at you from some wild angles and with full lift. Fun to watch.
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    Aparantly naz never did any running to train?!? Think he did leg weights and masses of body (not head) sparring
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    Those thick tree trunk legs and great flexibility around the waist had him coming at you from some wild angles and with full lift. Fun to watch.

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    Ha! Naz must go down as the most annoying boxer ever!? I cant belive how much he got under everyones skin! I cant think of another boxer who everyone hates so much? Personally i liked naz, not as much out of the ring but in it, i dont think anyone has ever pulled off that style like hamed did, ok his mouth was annoying but he always talked the talk then walked the walk (bar mab whos one of the best ive seen at that weight) i think naz could of beaten mab or would of put up a better display maybe 4 or 5 fights previous as he trained harder, by the time naz boxed mab he had well and truley got too big for his boots! He'd stopped listening to his trainers etc and totally forgot what was important in boxing,

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuthaPug View Post
    There is no reason to demean Hamed by calling him Princess. Not valuable boxing criticism at all.

    He provided a dangerous and unorthodox approach which made his fights interesting as hell. Thing about unschooled and unorthodox combined with lots of natural ability is that it will do very well when it has lots of energy going but it will always lose to the best schooled orthodoxy carefully applied by a master.

    Barrera proves it.

    It is indeed regretable that Hamed didn't take that wild natural ability and, without losing his unorthodox infusion of energy and angles, also learn the science.

    He had a wicked talent and mistook that for an invincibility provided by Allah. It was not; at least, not in the way he believed.

    I am more a fan of MAB than of Hamed but did enjoy watching Hamed fight and was disappointed to see him unable to handle a loss and to see him abandon boxing when Allah did not ensure a victory in every fight. MAB, Allah and the science of boxing all deserve more investment, humility and respect than Hamed was able to bring.
    There's every reason to demean Princess Hamed, including his gay ring entrances which had fuck all to do with boxing, and basically quitting like a pussy after his first loss. An "invincibility provided by Allah"? What a fucking clown.
    Last edited by Mars_ax; 07-30-2011 at 10:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NuthaPug View Post
    There is no reason to demean Hamed by calling him Princess. Not valuable boxing criticism at all.

    He provided a dangerous and unorthodox approach which made his fights interesting as hell. Thing about unschooled and unorthodox combined with lots of natural ability is that it will do very well when it has lots of energy going but it will always lose to the best schooled orthodoxy carefully applied by a master.

    Barrera proves it.

    It is indeed regretable that Hamed didn't take that wild natural ability and, without losing his unorthodox infusion of energy and angles, also learn the science.

    He had a wicked talent and mistook that for an invincibility provided by Allah. It was not; at least, not in the way he believed.

    I am more a fan of MAB than of Hamed but did enjoy watching Hamed fight and was disappointed to see him unable to handle a loss and to see him abandon boxing when Allah did not ensure a victory in every fight. MAB, Allah and the science of boxing all deserve more investment, humility and respect than Hamed was able to bring.
    There's every reason to demean Princess Hamed, including his gay ring entrances which had fuck all to do with boxing, and basically quitting like a pussy after his first loss. An "invincibility provided by Allah"? What a fucking clown.
    So emotional

    Naz wa nothing but good for boxing. Hell, even the Klitschko Brothers took a leaf outta his book when it comes to ring entrances!

    Andre good observation on Naz' build, I never really looked at it like that. It's amazing really the way we can think outside of the box and choose to exploit our own physical gifts in the most unique ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NuthaPug View Post
    There is no reason to demean Hamed by calling him Princess. Not valuable boxing criticism at all.

    He provided a dangerous and unorthodox approach which made his fights interesting as hell. Thing about unschooled and unorthodox combined with lots of natural ability is that it will do very well when it has lots of energy going but it will always lose to the best schooled orthodoxy carefully applied by a master.

    Barrera proves it.

    It is indeed regretable that Hamed didn't take that wild natural ability and, without losing his unorthodox infusion of energy and angles, also learn the science.

    He had a wicked talent and mistook that for an invincibility provided by Allah. It was not; at least, not in the way he believed.

    I am more a fan of MAB than of Hamed but did enjoy watching Hamed fight and was disappointed to see him unable to handle a loss and to see him abandon boxing when Allah did not ensure a victory in every fight. MAB, Allah and the science of boxing all deserve more investment, humility and respect than Hamed was able to bring.
    There's every reason to demean Princess Hamed, including his gay ring entrances which had fuck all to do with boxing, and basically quitting like a pussy after his first loss. An "invincibility provided by Allah"? What a fucking clown.
    So emotional

    Naz wa nothing but good for boxing. Hell, even the Klitschko Brothers took a leaf outta his book when it comes to ring entrances!

    Andre good observation on Naz' build, I never really looked at it like that. It's amazing really the way we can think outside of the box and choose to exploit our own physical gifts in the most unique ways.
    WTF does "emotion" have to do with anything? You read too much into 'my' opinions, emotion has little to do with any of them.

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    i loved that fight. i think what threw naz off mentally was that beer that went flying into his face when he was swinging down onto the floor from that lame swing entrance! u could tell he was pretty pissed that he was disrespected like that. it threw his focus off bad.

    then it was barerras fist that went flying onto his face. classic!

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    Hamed vs Kelly is still my favorite fight. No one fought quite like Hamed so he was exciting to watch. I enjoy watching him fight more than Barerra.

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