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    Default Re: Pavlik pulls out of Aug 6th Fight!!! WTF. Anybody know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloking View Post
    Hmm after been asked about it, Jean Bédard, the president of InterBox, said that they offered more money to Pavlik than they offered to Kessler (Source ; CKAC.com).

    Who to believe...Jean Bédard that, as far as I know, never lied to journalist...or Pavlik who's life is quite...interested these time.
    Bedard is normally a very likable and honest guy, I wouldn't still give him my soul but I could tend to believe that.
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    I have all the empathy in the world for alchoholics, but none for white guys who shave their heads and get tatoos like that. I dont think he had a chance in hell of beating Bute anyways really.

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    Meh, he's got issues obviously. I can't say this ruined my weekend anyway. And this way I can continue to talk about how Bute never fights anybody. Win.

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    What Pavlik needed to do if he wanted to stay in the boxing game at the elite level was to move his training camp out of Ohio and get a new trainer. The temptation of trouble in Ohio was just too great for him to handle. It's a shame really. His career is basically over because he's too unreliable.

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    I think people need to put their sentiments in some context really. Addiction ruins so many millions of people, if anyone is going to let it destroy their career why not a dumb hillbilly who beats people up for a living. Dont get me wrong, its sad in the abstract and all.. But Pavlik is someone who is in a much better position to do something about this than most people. He was a good fighter for a while, made some money, just retire and try and clean up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I think people need to put their sentiments in some context really. Addiction ruins so many millions of people, if anyone is going to let it destroy their career why not a dumb hillbilly who beats people up for a living. Dont get me wrong, its sad in the abstract and all.. But Pavlik is someone who is in a much better position to do something about this than most people. He was a good fighter for a while, made some money, just retire and try and clean up.
    Why does it matter if he was a ghetto black dude from Compton or a white hillbilly from Youngstown?

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    Kelly Pavlik Sounds Off: “I’m Tired of Being a Puppet!” - Boxing News

    Pavlik is alleging that Top Rank was just trying to cash out on him and he'd rather not fight than let them do that. I don't necessarily agree with him, but he made a couple of points in that article. He was paid $270k to fight his last fight. This fight is for $50k. His fight against Rubio was for $1.5M, and his fight against Bute was allegedly for $1.1M. Is he getting the right amount for a fight against Bute when Bute sells out stadiums of 20k people? Arum says it was 60/40 split, but I don't really believe that if Bute's people offered Kessler $3M (if that's true). Kessler may be a bigger name, and I'm not sure he is, but not $2M bigger. It's a decent read. Your take?

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    Default Re: Pavlik pulls out of Aug 6th Fight!!! WTF. Anybody know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I think people need to put their sentiments in some context really. Addiction ruins so many millions of people, if anyone is going to let it destroy their career why not a dumb hillbilly who beats people up for a living. Dont get me wrong, its sad in the abstract and all.. But Pavlik is someone who is in a much better position to do something about this than most people. He was a good fighter for a while, made some money, just retire and try and clean up.
    Why does it matter if he was a ghetto black dude from Compton or a white hillbilly from Youngstown?
    Yep, because people have never used very poorly hidden racial euphemisms about black fighters' issues out of the ring when criticizing them

    I have re-thought on this a bit though. Even though I think Pavlik is royally fucking up his career, this article did make me have a bit more time for him. At the end of the day it is HIS career & no one is in that ring but him.

    Kelly Pavlik takes control, for better or worse - ESPN

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    Default Re: Pavlik pulls out of Aug 6th Fight!!! WTF. Anybody know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I think people need to put their sentiments in some context really. Addiction ruins so many millions of people, if anyone is going to let it destroy their career why not a dumb hillbilly who beats people up for a living. Dont get me wrong, its sad in the abstract and all.. But Pavlik is someone who is in a much better position to do something about this than most people. He was a good fighter for a while, made some money, just retire and try and clean up.
    Why does it matter if he was a ghetto black dude from Compton or a white hillbilly from Youngstown?
    I didn't mention race in my post, but I was just ranting really. Of course it wouldn't matter. I was just saying that it happens to better people, nothing to cry about here.

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    Pavlik might be dumb for not fighting this time round but he will get another chance and with more money. Sorry to bring race into it but hes a fomer middleweight american champion..and hes white! America are not gonna let go of this guy just yet!

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    Fair enough if he pulled out of the bute fight because of not enough money. But why leave cunnigham
    And the fans who have paid good earned money to see this fight and cancel it last minute? Its shows a lack of respect of sportsmanship. And how pulling out of a fight due to him not getting enough money against bute enhance his future prospects of earning future potential pay cheques? It doesn't make sense at all. He really must have some troubles or lack of common sense,
    Because we all know pavlik would beat cunnigham. I really don't know where he goes from this.

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