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    Default Boxing at the Olympics '08 *Beijing* Let's talk here! Post videos & pictures!!!

    This thread is meant as the thread about the upcoming Olympics. I will try to post previews on each division, using the same formula. I'm hoping people are willing to contribute to this, giving feedback, comments and info on the boxers – to be honest there is a lot of people, I've never heard about before.

    For each of the 11 divisions I will post the participants of this years contest. Links will be given (click on the name) to wikipedia-pages, wherever those are available. To be honest a lot of the information here will be more or less copied directly from wikipedia, but this is not meant to be academic, so I can simply give credit where credit is due. The numbers in paranthesis name refer to ABA's rankings (here). ABA's site (here) is a wonderful site for information btw. I have no clue, whether the rankings in any case reflects reality – truth is that most amateur boxers are quite young anyway, and someone without too much of a senior boxing pedigree might burst onto the scene (see: Amir Khan) – but I hope they do give some sort of idea of who to watch out for.

    I will also name the reigning champions from the last world championship as well as the most important regional championship. (+) after the name means they are competing in Beijing.

    I might attempt to do some written previews, but dont count on them as more than educated guesses at best – however, if people provide good information, I will try to update where possible. I will also leave room for bonus info, so bring it on guys (and Diane).

    I will post the Light Flyweight (-48 kg) today, and will create the posts for the rest of the divisions. It will be long posts, but I think there is a certain benefit in keeping them together. This is meant as a preview, so hopefully all the division-posts can be up in due time before the fighting starts. I am hoping the conversation can go on during the competition, and I think for future reference it will be cool to keep to one thread.

    I'm thinking how cool it would be now to see what a likewise most knowledgable boxing forum in the world would have written then-and-there on gold medallist like Cassius Clay (1960) or Wladimir Klistchko (1996), silver medallists like Lennox Lewis (1984) or Roy Jones Jr (1988 ), bronze medallists like Evander Holyfield (1984) or Floyd Mayweather Jr, (1996) or even first round losers like Joan Guzman (1996), Ivan Calderon (2000) or Miguel Cotto (2000). Surely I'm not the only one who can see this potential?

    Competition schedule

    Saturday, August 9th 2008:
    - Middleweight (75 kilo) preliminaries
    - Light Heavyweight (81 kilo) preliminaries

    Sunday, August 10th 2008:
    - Light Welterweight (64 kilo) preliminaries
    - Welterweight (69 kilo) preliminaries

    Monday, August 11th 2008:
    - Featherweight (57 kilo) preliminaries
    - Lightweight (60 kilo) preliminaries

    Tuesday, August 12th 2008:
    - Flyweight (51 kilo) preliminaries
    - Bantamweight (54 kilo) preliminaries

    Wednesday, August 13th 2008:
    - Light Flyweight (48 kilo) preliminaries
    - Heavyweight (91 kilo) preliminaries
    - Super Heavyweight (+91 kilo) preliminaries

    Thursday, August 14th 2008:
    - Welterweight (69 kilo) preliminaries
    - Light Heavyweight (81 kilo) preliminaries
    - Light Welterweight (64 kilo) preliminaries

    Friday, August 15th 2008:
    - Featherweight (57 kilo) preliminaries
    - Lightweight (60 kilo) preliminaries
    - Bantamweight (54 kilo) preliminaries

    Saturday, August 16th 2008:
    - Flyweight (51 kilo) preliminaries
    - Light Flyweight (48 kilo) preliminaries
    - Middleweight (75 kilo) preliminaries

    Sunday, August 17th 2008:
    - Light Welterweight (64 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Welterweight (69 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Heavyweight (91 kilo) Quaterfinals

    Monday, August 18th 2008:
    - Bantamweight (54 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Featherweight (57 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Super Heavyweight (+91 kilo) Quaterfinals

    Tuesday, August 19th 2008:
    - Light Flyweight (48 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Lightweight (60 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Light Heavyweight (81 kilo) Quaterfinals

    Wednesday, August 20th 2008:
    - Flyweight (51 kilo) Quaterfinals
    - Middleweight (75 kilo) Quaterfinals

    Thursday, August 21st 2008:
    - Day off.

    Friday, August 22nd 2008:
    - Flyweight (51 kilo) Semifinals
    - Featherweight (57 kilo) Semifinals
    - Light Welterweight (64 kilo) Semifinals
    - Middleweight (75 kilo) Semifinals
    - Heavyweight (91 kilo) Semifinals
    - Light Flyweight (48 kilo) Semifinals
    - Bantamweight (54 kilo) Semifinals
    - Lightweight (60 kilo) Semifinals
    - Welterweight (69 kilo) Semifinals
    - Super Heavyweight (+91 kilo) Semifinals

    Saturday, August 23rd 2008:
    - Flyweight (51 kilo) Final
    - Featherweight (57 kilo) Final
    - Light Welterweight (51 kilo) Final
    - Middleweight (75 kilo) Final
    - Heavyweight (91 kilo) Final

    Sunday, August 24th 2008:
    - Light Flyweight (48 kilo) Final
    - Bantamweight (54 kilo) Final
    - Lightweight (60 kilo) Final
    - Welterweight (69 kilo) Final
    - Light Heavyweight (81 kilo) Final
    - Super Heavyweight (+91 kilo) Final
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    Light Flyweight (48 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Rogelio Marcelo, Cuba (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 1996: Daniel Petrov, Bulgaria (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2000: Brahim Asloum, France (Current WBA champ at 108, pro record)
    Olympic champion 2004: Yan Barthelemy (pro record)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Zou Shiming, China (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: David Ayrapetyan, Russia (+)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: Pal Bedak, Hungary (+)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Zou Shiming, China (+)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Purevdorv Serdamba, Mongolia (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Suleiman Wanjau Bilali, Kenya (+)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Manyo Plange, Ghana (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: Luiz Yanez, USA (?)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Yampier Hernandez, Cuba (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Jack Willie, Papua New Guinea (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Japhet Uutoni, Namibia (+)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Japhet Uutoni, Namibia
    Suleiman Wanjau Bilali, Kenya
    Manyo Plange, Ghana
    Thomas Essomba, Cameroun [9]
    Redouane Bouchtok, Morocco
    Ronald Serugo, Uganda
    Simanga Shiba, Swaziland

    America:
    Luis Yanez, USA [6@51]
    Jose Luis Meza, Ecuador
    Eduard Bermudez, Venezuela [16]
    Paolo Carvalho, Brazil [18]
    Winston Mendez, Dominican Republic
    Yampier Hernandez, Cuba [6]

    Asia:
    Zou Shiming, China [1@51]
    Harry Tanamor, Phillipines [1]
    Amnat Ruonrang, Thailand [5]
    Birzhan Zhakypov, Kazahkstan [7]
    Rafikjon Sultonov, Uzbekistan
    Sherali Dostiev, Tadjikistan
    Purevori Serdamba, Mongolia [12]

    Europe:
    Nordine Oubaali, France [3]
    Hovhannes Danielyan, Armenia [15]
    Gheoriy Chygaev, Ukraine [9@51]
    Paddy Barnes, Ireland [11]
    David Ayrapetyan, Russia [2]
    Lukas Maszczyk, Poland [13]
    Pal Bedak, Hungary [4]
    Kelvin de La Nieve, Spain [8]

    Oceania:
    Jack Willie, Papua New Guinea [20]

    Preview:

    Double (and reigning) world champ Zou Shiming must be the huge betting favourite, with the Olympics even staged in his native China. For those of us not in the know, he might even be the biggest favourite in any boxing division in Beijing. Some highlights from the WC-final can be watched here btw. Harry Tanamor was the only pinoy to reach the WC final, and at least a few posters on this site must be following him with interest. Mongolian Serdamba did beat Shiming in last year’s Asian Championship (watch the last minute here), but that was at home in Mongolia. Chances are things will be different in Beijing. Never rule out the Cuban participant – Barthelemy did not have the best record neither before nor since the Olympics – but Hernandez do not look like one of the favourites. Ha has recent losses to both Luis Yanez and Dominican Winston Mendez at least. The American hope, 20 year old former World Junior Champion Luis Yanez, seems to have been excluded from the American squad (story here). The special nature of the Olympics means that all representatives, despite being officially qualified, must be accepted by the national federation. Not sure how much of a difference he would make anyway – he was recently stopped in three rounds by Shiming.

    Bonus info:

    - I always find myself rooting for the fighters coming out of small nations, preferably Africans or fighters from small nations in Oceania. This year my hopes go out for Shimanga Shiba, Swaziland’s only representative in the entire games, who even received a wild card in order to get here.

    - Zou Shiming can (should?) become the first ever Chinese gold medal in boxing. He will also become the first Asian to win in Light Flyweight.

    - If it comes to a repeat of the World Championships-finals it will be the only third All-Asian Olympic final in history. Bantamweight Takao Sakurai (Japan) defeated Chung Shin-Cho (South Korea) on home turf in Tokyo 1964, while Thai flyweight Wijan Ponlid defeated the Kazakh Bulat Jumadilov in Sydney 2000.

    - While Brahim Asloum (France) found Olympic success, all 19 European Championships contested at the weight have gone to boxers from the (former) Eastern bloc.

    - Should Persamba repeat his success from the Asian Championship he will provide the first ever gold medal in Olympic history for Mongolia – the country has so far produced 5 silver medals and 10 bronze medals (the latter including 2 in boxing). Should Harry Tanamor do one better than in the World Championships, he will become the first ever Pinoy to win Olympic gold. All the countries’ post-WWII medals (2 silver, 2 bronze) has come in boxing btw, the latest in Barcelona 1992. Perhaps Tanamor can look to his countries’ flagbearer, the one and only Manny Pacquiao, for inspiration?

    - Japhet Uutoni (Namibia) also represents a country without any Olympic gold medals. People might remember the sprinter Frankie Fredericks, who has won all of Namibias 4 medals so far (all silver).

    - Jack Willie (Papua New Guinea) and Shimanga Shiba (Swaziland) can become their countries' first ever Olympic medallists.
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    Flyweight (51 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Choi Chol-Su, North Korea (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 1996: Maikro Romero, Cuba (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2000: Wijan Ponlid, Thailand (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2004: Yuriorkis Gamboa (pro record)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Raushee Warren, USA (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: Georgy Balakshin, Russia (+)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: Rafal Kaczor, Poland (+)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Violito Payla, Phillipines (-)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Mirat Sarsanbayev, Kazakhstan (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Abderahim Mechenoai, Algeria (-)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Walid Cherif, Tunesia (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: McWilliams Arroyo, Puerto Rico (+)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Andry Laffita, Cuba (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Stephen Sutherland, Australia (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Don Broadhurst, Great Britain (-)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Walid Cherif, Tunesia
    Abdelillah Nhaila, Morocco
    Molla Getachew, Ethiopia
    Cassius Chiyanika, Zambia
    Bernard Ngumba, Kenya
    Jackson Chauke, South Africa

    America:
    Raushee Warren, USA [2]
    McWilliams Arroyo, Puerto Rico [7]
    Juan Carlos Payano, Dominican Republic [5]
    Andry Laffita, Cuba [10]
    Eddie Valenzuela, Guatemala
    Robenilson Vieria, Brazil

    Asia:
    Somjit Jongjohor, Thailand [3]
    Arunudha Rathnayake, Sri Lanka
    Anver Yunusov, Tadjikistan [12]
    Lee Ok-Sung, South Korea
    Mirat Sarsembayev, Kazahkstan [11]
    Tulashboy Doniyorov, Uzbekistan [14]
    Jitender Kumar, India

    Europe:
    Vincenzo Picardi, Italy [8]
    Samir Mammadov, Azerbaidjan [4@54]
    Georgy Balahkshin, Russia [4]
    Rafal Kaczor, Poland [16]
    Norbert Kalucza, Hungary
    Khaleed Saeed Yafai, Great Britain
    Furkan Ulas Memis, Turkey [/font]
    Jerome Thomas, France [3@54]

    Oceania:
    Stephen Sutherland, Australia

    Preview:

    This division sure looks like a treat! You've got Raushee Warren, the first American boxer to contest two OG's in 30 years and at 21 the reigning world champ. Obviously, he will be gunning for the gold medal. Then you've got McWilliams Arroyo, the biggest Puerto Rican hope (according, also, to Macho on this very thread), looking to win the island's first ever gold. You've got Jerome Thomas (France), veteran of two Olympics already, in which he won medals both times. Last time out he lost the final to Gamboa - not much shame in that. You've got another two former World Champions (Thomas won in 2001) in Somjit Jongjohor (Thailand), 2003, and Lee Ok-Sung (South Korea), 2005. You've got a previous WC silver medallist (Andry Laffita) as the token Cuban outsider, a world ranked Dominican (Juan Carlos Payano) in Joan Guzman's old amateur division, a couple of guys with secondary medal experience they look to at least repeat and then finally Khaleed Saeed, the first ever English World Junior Champion (2006), is in the mix as well. Interesting - and wide open? - stuff! Do expect Warren to enter as favorite though - and if thngs go accordingly to be a feature on most p4p-lists by the time London 2012 rolls around.

    Bonus info:

    Youtube links:

    2004 Olympic final Yuriorkis Gamboa (Cuba) - Jerome Thomas (France) 1
    2004 Olympic final Yuriorkis Gamboa (Cuba) - Jerome Thomas (France) 2
    2007 WC final Raushee Warren (USA) - Somjit Jongjohor (Thailand)
    2006 World Cup Georgi Balakshin (Russia) - Andry Laffita (Cuba)
    US Olympic trials - Raushee Warren
    'Promo vid' Juan Carlos Payano (Dominican Republic)
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    Bantamweight (54 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Joel Casamayor, Cuba (Current WBO interim + Ring champ @135, pro record)
    Olympic champion 1996: Istvan Kovacs, Hungary (Former WBO champ @126, pro record)
    Olympic champion 2000: Guillermo Rigondeaux, Cuba (Never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2004: Guillermo Rigondeaux, Cuba (Never turned pro)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Sergei Vodopyanov, Russia (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: Ali Aliev, Russia (-)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: John Joe Nevin, Ireland (+)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Joan Tipon, Phillipines (-)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Enkhbat Badar-Uugan, Mongolia (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Abdelhalim Ouradi, Algeria (+)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Bruno Julie, Mauritius (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: Carlos Cuadras, Mexico (-)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Jonathan Romero, Colombia (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Luke Boyd, Australia (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Akhil Kumar, India(+)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Issah Samir (Ghana)
    Hicham Mesbahi (Morocco)
    Abdelhalim Ourradi (Algeria) [10]
    Bruno Julie (Mauritius) [16]
    Khumiso Ikgopoleng (Botswana)
    Thabiso Nketo (Lesotho)

    America:
    McJoe Arroyo (Puerto Rico) [12]
    Oscar Valdez (Mexico)
    Gary Russell (USA)
    Jonatan Romero (Colombia)
    Héctor Manzanilla (Venezuela) [18@57]
    Yankiel Leon (Cuba) [19]

    Asia:
    Kanat Abutalipov (Kazakhstan) [17]
    Khurshid Tadjibayev (Uzbekistan)
    Worapoj Petchkoom (Thailand) [2]
    Akhil Kumar (India)
    Han Soon-Chul (South Korea) [12@57]
    Gu Yu (China) [15@57]
    Enkhbat Badar-Uugan (Mongolia) [5]

    Europe:
    Sergey Vodopyanov (Russia) [1]
    Rustam Rahimov (Germany) [6]
    Vittorio Parrinello (Italy)
    John Joe Nevin (Ireland)
    Joseph Murray (Great Britain) [9]
    Khavazy Khatsyau (Belarus) [14@57]
    Ali Hallab (France) [9@57]
    Veaceslav Gojan (Moldova) [11]

    Oceania:
    Luke Boyd (Australia)

    Preview:

    The best Bantamweight in the world, Guillermo Rigondeaux, will not participate in the games. Instead Sergie Vodopyanov, winner of the last World Championship in Rigondeaux' absence will start as favorite. The Mongolian Badar-Uugan, Mongolian sportsman of the year 2007, came close last year (link to final below), and will be looking to win his country's first ever Olympic gold. Thai Petchkoom (silver) and the Tadjik-born German Rustam Rahimov (bronze) will aim at repeating - or bettering - their medals from Athens, while Gary Russell Jr (USA), Yankiel Leon (Cuba) and the bronze medallists from Chicago McJoe Arroyo (Puerto Rico) and Joe Murray (UK, little brother of pro-boxer John Murray) seem the most obvious dark horses.

    Bonus info:

    Youtube links:

    2004 Olympic final: Rigondeaux (Cuba) vs. Pethckoom (Thailand) 1
    2004 Olympic final: Rigondeaux (Cuba) vs. Pethckoom (Thailand) 2
    2007 WC final: Vodopyanov (Russia) vs. Badar-Uugan (Mongolia)
    Badar-Uugan Sportsman of the year in Mongolia 2007
    Gary Russell vs. Joseph Elegele (National PAL 2007)
    Joe Murray: With pads 1 & 2 and @ the Theatre of Dreams.
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    Featherweight (57 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Andreas Tews, Germany (Never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 1996: Somluck Kamsing, Thailand (Never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2000: Betzak Sattarkhanov, Kazahkstan (Never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2004: Alexei Tichtchenko, Russia (Participates as a lightweight in Beijing)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Albert Selimov, Russia (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: Albert Selimov, Russia (+)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: David Oliver Joyce, Ireland (-)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Bohodiron Sultanov, Uzbekistan (+)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Zorigbaatar Enkhzorig, Mongolia (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Abdelkaer Chadi, Algeria (+)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Abdelkaer Chadi, Algeria (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: Idel Torriente, Cuba (+)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Idel Torriente, Cuba (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Paul Flemming, Australia (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Stephen Smith, England (-)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Mahdi Oatine (Morocco)
    Abdelkaer Chadi (Algeria) [17@60]
    Alaa Shili (Tunisia)
    Nick Okoth (Kenya)
    Thato Batshegi (Botswana)
    Prince Dzanie (Ghana)

    America:
    Raynell Williams (USA)
    Arturo Santos Reyes (Mexico)
    Idel Torrente (Cuba) [3]
    Luis Enrique Porozo (Ecuador)
    Robson Conceicao (Brazil) [13]
    Roberto Navarro (Dominican Republic) [20]

    Asia:
    Li Yang (China) [8]
    Sailom Adi (Thailand)
    Anthresh Lalit Lakra (India)
    Bajordihon Sultonov (Uzbekistan) [2]
    Satoshi Shimizu (Japan)
    Galib Jafarov (Kazahkstan) [11]
    Zorigbaatar Enkhzorig (Mongolia) [6]

    Europe:
    Albert Selimov (Russia) [1]
    Vasyl Lomachenko (Ukraine) [4]
    Yakup Kilic (Turkey) [7]
    Khedafi Dhelkhir (France) [5]
    Shahin Imranov (Azerbaijan) [17]
    Wilhelm Gratschow (Germany)
    Alessio di Savino (Italy)
    Nikoloz Izoria (Georgia)

    Oceania:
    Paul Flemming (Australia)

    Preview:

    By first look this looks like an ex-USSR contest. Selimov (Russia) is world champ, beating Lomachenko (Ukraine) in the final. Sultonov (Uzbekistan) is bronze medallist (bantamweight) from Athens and has other noticeable results as well. Li Yang (China) might be the home upset though, being as close to reaching the WC final as possible by losing merely on countback to Lomachenko. Home advantage - and possibly shady judging? - might give him even more of an edge. Torrente, the Cuban contender, and the American Raynell Williams (USA) dont seem destined for great things here, but probably cannot be ruled out completely; at least not before the draw is known.

    Bonus info:

    Youtube links:

    2006 World Cup Yuriorkis Gamboa (Cuba) vs. Albert Selimov (Russia)
    2007 World Championships final: Albert Selimov (Russia) vs. Vasyl Lomachenko (Ukraine)
    2008 Raynell Williams (USA) vs. Arturo Santo Reyes (Mexico)
    Raynell Williams sparring in Argentina (June 200
    Australian national final 2007: Paul Flemming vs. Luke Jackson
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    Lightweight (60 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Oscar de la Hoya, USA (Former 6-time world champion, pro record)
    Olympic champion 1996: Hocine Soltani, Algeria (Pro record)
    Olympic champion 2000: Mario Kindelan, Cuba (Never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2004: Mario Kindelan, Cuba (Never turned pro)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Frankie Gavin, England (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: Alexey Tischenko, Russia (+)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: Thomas Stalker, England (-)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Hu Qing, China (+)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Kim Song Guk, North Korea (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Saifeddine Nejmaoui, Tunesia (+)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Hamza Kramou, Algeria (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: Yordenis Ugas, Cuba (+)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Darley Perez, Colombia (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Anthony Little, Australia (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Frankie Gavin, England (+)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Saifeddine Nejmaoui (Tunisia) [10]
    Hamza Kramou (Algeria) [9]
    Tahar Tamsamani (Morocco)
    Jean de Dieu Soloniaina (Madagascar)
    Rasheed Lawal (Nigeria)
    Julius Indongo (Namibia)

    America:
    Darley Perez (Colombia) [18]
    Yordenis Ugas (Cuba) [4]
    Sadam Ali (USA)
    Jose Pedraza (Puerto Rico) [16]
    Everton Lopes (Brazil) [6]
    Francisco Vargas (Mexico)

    Asia:
    Kim Song Guk (North Korea) [2]
    Pichai Sayotha (Thailand) [8]
    Hu Qing (China) [5]
    Baik Jong-Sub (South Korea)
    Merey Akshalov (Kazahkstan) [14]
    Asylbek Talasbayev (Kyrgyzstan)

    Europe:
    Frankie Gavin (Great Britain) [3@64]
    Domenico Valentino (Italy) [3]
    Alexey Tischenko (Russia) [1]
    Onur Sipal (Turkey) [17@64]
    Hrachik Javakhyan (Armenia) [12@64]
    Olexandr Klyuchenko (Ukraine) [7]
    Miklos Varga (Hungary) [12]
    Daouda Sow (France) [11]
    Georgian Popescu (Romania) [20]

    Oceania:
    Anthony Little (Australia)

    Preview:

    Possibly the most interesting division of them all! Frankie Gavin is perhaps the biggest British hope here, Tishenko (Russia) was unbeaten for four years before losing to Gavin at the World's (and is still considered among the best amateurs p4p), Klychenko beat Gavin at the last European Championships, and Kim Song Guk (North Korea) is coming off a silver medal in Athens. Add to those Sadam 'World Kid' Ali (USA) and Aussie hope Anthony Little, Italian WC silver medallist Domenico Valentino and highly ranked Chinese Hu Qing. Surely this cannot dissapoint.

    Bonus info:
    Youtube links:

    2004 Olympic Quarterfinal: Amir Khan (GB) vs. Baik Jong-Sub (South Korea)
    2005 World Cup: Yuriorkis Gamboa (Cuba) vs. Alexei Tishchenko (Russia)
    2007 World Championships: Frankie Gavin (England) vs. Alexei Tishchenko (Russia)
    2007 WC final: Frankie Gavin (England) cs. Domenico Valentino (Italy)
    Frankie Gavin on the Road to Beijing
    2006 Yordenis Ugas (Cuba) vs. Maxim Ignatiev (Russia) 1 & 2
    Sadam Ali (USA) promo 2007
    Sadam Ali sparring in Argentina (June 2008 )
    Domenico Valentino promo: 1, 2 & 3.
    Australian national final 2007: Anthony Little vs. Mark Pevinsky
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    Gary Russell at the PALs is actually Gary Allan Russell, the younger brother of the OLympican by the same name. (There are 6 brothers all named Gary in the family). Here are some other links to Russell Jr., the Olympian:

    Gary Russell Jr. Sparring in Argentina

    Gary Russell Jr. vs. Roberto Marroquin (2nd bout between the two at the 2007 US OLympic Trials)
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    Anyone find a bracket yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Anyone find a bracket yet?
    Draw is, as mentioned before, tomorrow. Will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel_K View Post
    Light Flyweight (48 kg)
    America:
    Luis Yanez, USA [6@51]
    Jose Luis Meza, Ecuador
    Eduard Bermudez, Venezuela [16]
    Paolo Carvalho, Brazil [18]
    Winston Mendez, Dominican Republic
    Yampier Hernandez, Cuba [6]
    I believe Yanez has been kicked off the US team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel_K View Post
    Light Flyweight (48 kg)

    Olympic champion 1992: Rogelio Marcelo, Cuba (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 1996: Daniel Petrov, Bulgaria (never turned pro)
    Olympic champion 2000: Brahim Asloum, France (Current WBA champ at 108, pro record)
    Olympic champion 2004: Yan Barthelemy (pro record)

    Reigning champions:

    World, USA 2007: Zou Shiming, China (+)
    European C., Bulgaria 2006: David Ayrapetyan, Russia (+)
    European Union C., Poland 2008: Pal Bedak, Hungary (+)
    Asian Games, Qatar 2006: Zou Shiming, China (+)
    Asian C., Mongolia 2007: Purevdorv Serdamba, Mongolia (+)
    All-Africa Games, Algeria 2007: Suleiman Wanjau Bilali, Kenya (+)
    African C., Madagascar 2007: Manyo Plange, Ghana (+)
    Pan-American Games, Brazil 2007: Luiz Yanez, USA (?)
    Pan-American C., Ecuador 2008: Yampier Hernandez, Cuba (+)
    Oceanian C., Samoa 2008: Jack Willie, Papua New Guinea (+)
    Commonwealth Games, Australia 2006: Japhet Uutoni, Namibia (+)

    Participants 2008:

    Africa:
    Japhet Uutoni, Namibia
    Suleiman Wanjau Bilali, Kenya
    Manyo Plange, Ghana
    Thomas Essomba, Cameroun [9]
    Redouane Bouchtok, Morocco
    Ronald Serugo, Uganda
    Simanga Shiba, Swaziland

    America:
    Luis Yanez, USA [6@51]
    Jose Luis Meza, Ecuador
    Eduard Bermudez, Venezuela [16]
    Paolo Carvalho, Brazil [18]
    Winston Mendez, Dominican Republic
    Yampier Hernandez, Cuba [6]

    Asia:
    Zou Shiming, China [1@51]
    Harry Tanamor, Phillipines [1]
    Amnat Ruonrang, Thailand [5]
    Birzhan Zhakypov, Kazahkstan [7]
    Rafikjon Sultonov, Uzbekistan
    Sherali Dostiev, Tadjikistan
    Purevori Serdamba, Mongolia [12]

    Europe:
    Nordine Oubaali, France [3]
    Hovhannes Danielyan, Armenia [15]
    Gheoriy Chygaev, Ukraine [9@51]
    Paddy Barnes, Ireland [11]
    David Ayrapetyan, Russia [2]
    Lukas Maszczyk, Poland [13]
    Pal Bedak, Hungary [4]
    Kelvin de La Nieve, Spain [8]

    Oceania:
    Jack Willie, Papua New Guinea [20]

    Preview:

    Double (and reigning) world champ Zou Shiming must be the huge betting favourite, with the Olympics even staged in his native China. For those of us not in the know, he might even be the biggest favourite in any boxing division in Beijing. Some highlights from the WC-final can be watched here btw. Harry Tanamor was the only pinoy to reach the WC final, and at least a few posters on this site must be following him with interest. Mongolian Serdamba did beat Shiming in last year’s Asian Championship (watch the last minute here), but that was at home in Mongolia. Chances are things will be different in Beijing. Never rule out the Cuban participant – Barthelemy did not have the best record neither before nor since the Olympics – but Hernandez do not look like one of the favourites. Ha has recent losses to both Luis Yanez and Dominican Winston Mendez at least. The American hope, 20 year old former World Junior Champion Luis Yanez, seems to have been excluded from the American squad (story here). The special nature of the Olympics means that all representatives, despite being officially qualified, must be accepted by the national federation. Not sure how much of a difference he would make anyway – he was recently stopped in three rounds by Shiming.

    Bonus info:

    - I always find myself rooting for the fighters coming out of small nations, preferably Africans or fighters from small nations in Oceania. This year my hopes go out for Shimanga Shiba, Swaziland’s only representative in the entire games, who even received a wild card in order to get here.

    - Zou Shiming can (should?) become the first ever Chinese gold medal in boxing. He will also become the first Asian to win in Light Flyweight.

    - If it comes to a repeat of the World Championships-finals it will be the only third All-Asian Olympic final in history. Bantamweight Takao Sakurai (Japan) defeated Chung Shin-Cho (South Korea) on home turf in Tokyo 1964, while Thai flyweight Wijan Ponlid defeated the Kazakh Bulat Jumadilov in Sydney 2000.

    - While Brahim Asloum (France) found Olympic success, all 19 European Championships contested at the weight have gone to boxers from the (former) Eastern bloc.

    - Should Persamba repeat his success from the Asian Championship he will provide the first ever gold medal in Olympic history for Mongolia – the country has so far produced 5 silver medals and 10 bronze medals (the latter including 2 in boxing). Should Harry Tanamor do one better than in the World Championships, he will become the first ever Pinoy to win Olympic gold. All the countries’ post-WWII medals (2 silver, 2 bronze) has come in boxing btw, the latest in Barcelona 1992. Perhaps Tanamor can look to his countries’ flagbearer, the one and only Manny Pacquiao, for inspiration?

    - Japhet Uutoni (Namibia) also represents a country without any Olympic gold medals. People might remember the sprinter Frankie Fredericks, who has won all of Namibias 4 medals so far (all silver).

    - Jack Willie (Papua New Guinea) and Shimanga Shiba (Swaziland) can become their countries' first ever Olympic medallists.
    I am pretty sure Rau'Shee Warren made it, and when he was 17 he lost to Shiming in the first round, but they are in the same division, and he has become 20x better than he was back then.

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    Here are the ABA boxing rankings Mens World

    its seems Andrade and Warren both have a pretty good shot in their division.

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    Shiming is at light flyweight, Warren at flyweight. And if Warren was still at light fly, I very much doubt that he would fare much better against Shiming. Warren's main competion, imo, will be George Balakshin from Russia. Solid boxer, very fast especially on the inside, good defense and just an all around solid boxer. I think he'll do it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I am pretty sure Rau'Shee Warren made it, and when he was 17 he lost to Shiming in the first round, but they are in the same division, and he has become 20x better than he was back then.
    He moved up a weight class
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