Mayweather vs Pac

[leftylee]

Difference between MAyweather and Pac.



MAyweather= He's ducking the best in his division. Hasn't fought someone who will really give him a real test of his skill (Cotto, MArgarito... proof...Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito and split with promoter Bob Arum) REason. Read my first sentence.


Pac= Fought the best out there and demolish (or at least won over them). FACT.


Now, JT.... can you prove that PBF is really faster than Pac? Me, I can prove otherwise.


Pac was hitting DLH at will while PBF wasn't. PBF was even a little scared against DLH. Watch that fight again and compare it with Pac vs DLH.

Peace man.

That's a reason I'll always respect Pac, fighting the very best

[kingfrnk]

Difference between MAyweather and Pac.



MAyweather= He's ducking the best in his division. Hasn't fought someone who will really give him a real test of his skill (Cotto, MArgarito... proof...Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito and split with promoter Bob Arum) REason. Read my first sentence.


Pac= Fought the best out there and demolish (or at least won over them). FACT.


Now, JT.... can you prove that PBF is really faster than Pac? Me, I can prove otherwise.


Pac was hitting DLH at will while PBF wasn't. PBF was even a little scared against DLH. Watch that fight again and compare it with Pac vs DLH.

Peace man.

pac fought David Diaz at LW and u call that the best in that division , when JMM (who alot of people though he beat Pac) beat the RING champ.

and PBF was not scared of Oscar thats just a silly ass comment to make Pac look better. Dont forget the FACT that Floyd went UP in weight to fight Oscar he didnt have to drain himself to 147 which he hasnt fought at since Gatti.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

I'll have to say, Thank you Brucelee for bringing a little more logical knowledge to the forum. Of course Mayweather was a little scared against DLH. Mayweather likes to put on a big show before a fight to sell tickets (nothing wrong with that). But when pretty boy gets into the ring he is not a very confident fighter. It was plainly obvious when he fought DLH, he had a frightened look on his face. JT Im not sure why you keep bringing up the JMM and Pacquiao fight. I've seen both of their fights and they were close but Pacquiao won them both. Pacquiao by no means acted suprised to win just happy. I watched on HBO the night of the fight while im sure you got a blury version on youtube. You keep bringing up JMM so I'm gonna start bringing up DLH, Zab Judah, and castillo. Mayweather barely slips by castillo? are you kidding me? What could he not handle pressure, then whats he gonna do agaisnt Pacman? What was zab judah's speed around he same as mayweather's? Does that bother him? Whats he gonna do against pacquiao who is qicker than Judah? Did Floyd have trouble with Oscar coming in off his jab then bringing pressure? Is DLH as fast as Pa....... well I dont think we need to go there, I'm pretty sure the whole planet knows the answer to that. Dont act like Pacquiao had some trouble with JMM and floyd has never had trouble with fighters. Pound for pound JMM is better than Castillo and Judah for sure! If you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll what this ROCK is cookin............

[bcollins]

I'll have to say, Thank you Brucelee for bringing a little more logical knowledge to the forum. Of course Mayweather was a little scared against DLH. Mayweather likes to put on a big show before a fight to sell tickets (nothing wrong with that). But when pretty boy gets into the ring he is not a very confident fighter. It was plainly obvious when he fought DLH, he had a frightened look on his face. JT Im not sure why you keep bringing up the JMM and Pacquiao fight. I've seen both of their fights and they were close but Pacquiao won them both. Pacquiao by no means acted suprised to win just happy. I watched on HBO the night of the fight while im sure you got a blury version on youtube. You keep bringing up JMM so I'm gonna start bringing up DLH, Zab Judah, and castillo. Mayweather barely slips by castillo? are you kidding me? What could he not handle pressure, then whats he gonna do agaisnt Pacman? What was zab judah's speed around he same as mayweather's? Does that bother him? Whats he gonna do against pacquiao who is qicker than Judah? Did Floyd have trouble with Oscar coming in off his jab then bringing pressure? Is DLH as fast as Pa....... well I dont think we need to go there, I'm pretty sure the whole planet knows the answer to that. Dont act like Pacquiao had some trouble with JMM and floyd has never had trouble with fighters. Pound for pound JMM is better than Castillo and Judah for sure! If you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll what this ROCK is cookin............

I'm a Pacquiao fan and a verified PBF hater, but you're almost making me root for Floyd with these tirades. Almost

Anyway, this would be an interesting matchup. Pac is open for counters, as shown against JMM, and PBF is no slouch at counterpunching. Pac also has a tendency to leave himself open to right hands - and PBF has one of the best rights in the business (as Gyrokai pointed out wayyy back in this thread). Combine that with Floyd's movement and defense and Pac has a tough night in that matchup.

However, I'm still optimistic about Pac's chances. He doesn't have a whole lot of quit in him, and he'll fight the whole 12. I think Floyd might be stuck in defensive mode if Pac can stifle the counters, which he might have some sucess with given his all out attack style.

Overall, I think it might be too much to ask of Pacquiao, but I'd be rooting for him the whole fight. I'd pay to see this matchup for sure

[levi#1BoxingFan]

lol, hey I didnt start the personal bull crap just defending myself and my opinion. I started off just stating how and why I thought Pacman would beat both hatton and mayweather and then you have the self proclaimed expert sayin im a fair weather poster for pacquiao and that i'll be gone after he loses. I might have taken the personal stuff to the next level but hey, thats the same thing Pacquiao's gonna do to Mayweather, take it to the next level!

[Spicoli]

lol, hey I didnt start the personal bull crap just defending myself and my opinion. I started off just stating how and why I thought Pacman would beat both hatton and mayweather and then you have the self proclaimed expert sayin im a fair weather poster for pacquiao and that i'll be gone after he loses. I might have taken the personal stuff to the next level but hey, thats the same thing Pacquiao's gonna do to Mayweather, take it to the next level!

Yeah...I'd say ya did.Welcome to the forum btw...

Take no pleasure in watching Floyd but he always has that 'seen a ghost' look on his face when pressured.Just a little premature to declare Pac the next coming at 140 + and a certain victor over Floyd off of his initial drubbing of The Diva in that manufactured farce I believe.JMM and Pac brought one another to the brink,wouldn't mind seeing Pac get back down and clean up the lights,not likely in any way, looks like he is going souly for the Network friendly superfights.

[JT Rock]

I'll have to say, Thank you Brucelee for bringing a little more logical knowledge to the forum. Of course Mayweather was a little scared against DLH. Mayweather likes to put on a big show before a fight to sell tickets (nothing wrong with that). But when pretty boy gets into the ring he is not a very confident fighter. It was plainly obvious when he fought DLH, he had a frightened look on his face. JT Im not sure why you keep bringing up the JMM and Pacquiao fight. I've seen both of their fights and they were close but Pacquiao won them both. Pacquiao by no means acted suprised to win just happy. I watched on HBO the night of the fight while im sure you got a blury version on youtube. You keep bringing up JMM so I'm gonna start bringing up DLH, Zab Judah, and castillo. Mayweather barely slips by castillo? are you kidding me? What could he not handle pressure, then whats he gonna do agaisnt Pacman? What was zab judah's speed around he same as mayweather's? Does that bother him? Whats he gonna do against pacquiao who is qicker than Judah? Did Floyd have trouble with Oscar coming in off his jab then bringing pressure? Is DLH as fast as Pa....... well I dont think we need to go there, I'm pretty sure the whole planet knows the answer to that. Dont act like Pacquiao had some trouble with JMM and floyd has never had trouble with fighters. Pound for pound JMM is better than Castillo and Judah for sure! If you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll what this ROCK is cookin............

You know dude, argueing with you is doing my head in really.. its not woth it to me, and I'm not the only one that thinks so

You keep bringing up the DLH fight but ignore the fact that the contracted weight was 154 a weight that delahoya was fighting for a decade, with every advantage ring, glove type etc.. yet you ignore that conveniently.

Also you ignore how JMM got to Pac very effectively to the point were MOST experts gave him the nod over PAC, but you know what no big deal a win is a win and thats the bottom line, but to think Floyd isint more effective with his right and faster with it, along with better footwork and superb defense and countering ability, just demonstrates how blind you are.. The rabid pac fans werent coming out of the woodwork last year when he scraped by JMM proclaiming he could beat Mayweather or Hatton, but now that he beat a overrated Diaz and drained Oscar that now you guys think he can beat those 2.. Like I said man it dosent tell any different story last year than it does this year.

You are bringing up Judah, Castillo fights whats the point to that?? Floyd figured them out intellegintely and beat them.. You guys hate to hear how Manny got KO 2X and has a draw on his record you say its old news and Pac has evolved as a fighter... But Mayweather hasnt there is no doubt that Floyd and Pac are 2 different types of fighter with no comparison.. mayweather is more cerebral and Pac is like a runaway train.. There is nothing wrong with that, but when comparing the 2 Floyd has fought all types of fighters all, he is called the pretty boy because he rarely gets hit even at the lighter weights were his resume is Stellar.. there is a reason for that...

I dont hold what Pac did more impressive to what Floyd did against Coralles.. He did it by fighting smart, and wearing down Diego with Laser like presicion...

Floyd is a skilled surgeon who cuts out your heart with precision and technique, were Manny is like an Axe murderer.. Sure you may like a good Slasher movie, but Im going with the smart guy who can carve you up clean and proper...

But Im done with you now

[JT Rock]

Difference between MAyweather and Pac.



MAyweather= He's ducking the best in his division. Hasn't fought someone who will really give him a real test of his skill (Cotto, MArgarito... proof...Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito and split with promoter Bob Arum) REason. Read my first sentence.


Pac= Fought the best out there and demolish (or at least won over them). FACT.




Now, JT.... can you prove that PBF is really faster than Pac? Me, I can prove otherwise.


Pac was hitting DLH at will while PBF wasn't. PBF was even a little scared against DLH. Watch that fight again and compare it with Pac vs DLH.

Peace man.

Like I said Floyd fought Oscar at 154 which he hydrtes to over 160 and has been fighting there for a decade. with EVERY advantage written in the contract and was a year and a half younger.. Manny fought a dryed up older version of Oscar... Like Frank said Delahoya didnt move down for Floyd..

SO there is no comparison.. The fact that you are trying to make a case is embarrasing to you and that Levi character.. Like I said real people know the deal

Margarito: Everyone knows that wasnt a real substanial offer Bruce... That myth had been debunked a while back, but I guess since it didnt involve Pac you wouldnt have known, besides again Bruce why would Floyd pass up a fight with the Lineal undisputed champ at 147, to fight a guy and his mythical offer that most people didnt know at the time in Margarito Thats not a duck at all dude especially when Floyd got a real 8 mill to fight Baldo pitched a shutout and won the undisputed 147 crown, which most people picked Carlos to wipe Floyd out...

You still havent answered my first question, nor have you proven Pac is faster.. You my friend are a farce as well and I am done with you too

Besides there is no more glory in exposing you around here, seeing you been owned so many times you wear an address collar like a cat in case you wonder off

Good Day

[Julius Rain]

Floyds gonna get his monkey ass knocked out. I can't wait

J.T I remember this guy say joe is now p4p king cause floyd is retired. wtf what a total hater. pac is second p4p, joe is third then suddenly since floyd is no longer number 1 joe jumps up to 1 and pac doesn't? haha what a hell

I've learned to enjoy pac doubters, cause its funny pac is being considered in the same sentence as henry armstrong and floyd is being considered as a PUSSY OF ALL TIME

[JT Rock]

Floyds gonna get his monkey ass knocked out. I can't wait

J.T I remember this guy say joe is now p4p king cause floyd is retired. wtf what a total hater. pac is second p4p, joe is third then suddenly since floyd is no longer number 1 joe jumps up to 1 and pac doesn't? haha what a hell

I've learned to enjoy pac doubters, cause its funny pac is being considered in the same sentence as henry armstrong and floyd is being considered as a PUSSY OF ALL TIME

...

[C-Lo]

I'll have to say, Thank you Brucelee for bringing a little more logical knowledge to the forum. Of course Mayweather was a little scared against DLH. Mayweather likes to put on a big show before a fight to sell tickets (nothing wrong with that). But when pretty boy gets into the ring he is not a very confident fighter. It was plainly obvious when he fought DLH, he had a frightened look on his face. JT Im not sure why you keep bringing up the JMM and Pacquiao fight. I've seen both of their fights and they were close but Pacquiao won them both. Pacquiao by no means acted suprised to win just happy. I watched on HBO the night of the fight while im sure you got a blury version on youtube. You keep bringing up JMM so I'm gonna start bringing up DLH, Zab Judah, and castillo. Mayweather barely slips by castillo? are you kidding me? What could he not handle pressure, then whats he gonna do agaisnt Pacman? What was zab judah's speed around he same as mayweather's? Does that bother him? Whats he gonna do against pacquiao who is qicker than Judah? Did Floyd have trouble with Oscar coming in off his jab then bringing pressure? Is DLH as fast as Pa....... well I dont think we need to go there, I'm pretty sure the whole planet knows the answer to that. Dont act like Pacquiao had some trouble with JMM and floyd has never had trouble with fighters. Pound for pound JMM is better than Castillo and Judah for sure! If you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll what this ROCK is cookin............

You know dude, argueing with you is doing my head in really.. its not woth it to me, and I'm not the only one that thinks so

You keep bringing up the DLH fight but ignore the fact that the contracted weight was 154 a weight that delahoya was fighting for a decade, with every advantage ring, glove type etc.. yet you ignore that conveniently.

Also you ignore how JMM got to Pac very effectively to the point were MOST experts gave him the nod over PAC, but you know what no big deal a win is a win and thats the bottom line, but to think Floyd isint more effective with his right and faster with it, along with better footwork and superb defense and countering ability, just demonstrates how blind you are.. The rabid pac fans werent coming out of the woodwork last year when he scraped by JMM proclaiming he could beat Mayweather or Hatton, but now that he beat a overrated Diaz and drained Oscar that now you guys think he can beat those 2.. Like I said man it dosent tell any different story last year than it does this year.

You are bringing up Judah, Castillo fights whats the point to that?? Floyd figured them out intellegintely and beat them.. You guys hate to hear how Manny got KO 2X and has a draw on his record you say its old news and Pac has evolved as a fighter... But Mayweather hasnt there is no doubt that Floyd and Pac are 2 different types of fighter with no comparison.. mayweather is more cerebral and Pac is like a runaway train.. There is nothing wrong with that, but when comparing the 2 Floyd has fought all types of fighters all, he is called the pretty boy because he rarely gets hit even at the lighter weights were his resume is Stellar.. there is a reason for that...

I dont hold what Pac did more impressive to what Floyd did against Coralles.. He did it by fighting smart, and wearing down Diego with Laser like presicion...

Floyd is a skilled surgeon who cuts out your heart with precision and technique, were Manny is like an Axe murderer.. Sure you may like a good Slasher movie, but Im going with the smart guy who can carve you up clean and proper...

But Im done with you now

I think the thread should've been over at this post. JT ended it.

Seriously, anyone who thinks Pacquiao is going to "DESTROY" Floyd is just out of their mind. How can someone who is undefeated, fought different types of fighter, proven he can't be hit flush suddenly lose all his skills? I don't even want to get into it. I'm one of Pacquiao's biggest fans!! BUT! I know when he has a tough fight ahead of him.

I leave it at this, Mayweather has never seen a fighter like Pacquiao while on the other end, Pacquiao has never seen a fighter like Mayweather.

[C-Lo]

BTW!

If Pacquiao can handle all his success and accolades with such humility, I don't understand why his fans act so differently.

Of course there are going to be haters and doubters. But do the same thing he does, win, say thank you, and walk away with honor. A sore winner is just as bad as a sore loser.

[JT Rock]

I'll have to say, Thank you Brucelee for bringing a little more logical knowledge to the forum. Of course Mayweather was a little scared against DLH. Mayweather likes to put on a big show before a fight to sell tickets (nothing wrong with that). But when pretty boy gets into the ring he is not a very confident fighter. It was plainly obvious when he fought DLH, he had a frightened look on his face. JT Im not sure why you keep bringing up the JMM and Pacquiao fight. I've seen both of their fights and they were close but Pacquiao won them both. Pacquiao by no means acted suprised to win just happy. I watched on HBO the night of the fight while im sure you got a blury version on youtube. You keep bringing up JMM so I'm gonna start bringing up DLH, Zab Judah, and castillo. Mayweather barely slips by castillo? are you kidding me? What could he not handle pressure, then whats he gonna do agaisnt Pacman? What was zab judah's speed around he same as mayweather's? Does that bother him? Whats he gonna do against pacquiao who is qicker than Judah? Did Floyd have trouble with Oscar coming in off his jab then bringing pressure? Is DLH as fast as Pa....... well I dont think we need to go there, I'm pretty sure the whole planet knows the answer to that. Dont act like Pacquiao had some trouble with JMM and floyd has never had trouble with fighters. Pound for pound JMM is better than Castillo and Judah for sure! If you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll what this ROCK is cookin............

You know dude, argueing with you is doing my head in really.. its not woth it to me, and I'm not the only one that thinks so

You keep bringing up the DLH fight but ignore the fact that the contracted weight was 154 a weight that delahoya was fighting for a decade, with every advantage ring, glove type etc.. yet you ignore that conveniently.

Also you ignore how JMM got to Pac very effectively to the point were MOST experts gave him the nod over PAC, but you know what no big deal a win is a win and thats the bottom line, but to think Floyd isint more effective with his right and faster with it, along with better footwork and superb defense and countering ability, just demonstrates how blind you are.. The rabid pac fans werent coming out of the woodwork last year when he scraped by JMM proclaiming he could beat Mayweather or Hatton, but now that he beat a overrated Diaz and drained Oscar that now you guys think he can beat those 2.. Like I said man it dosent tell any different story last year than it does this year.

You are bringing up Judah, Castillo fights whats the point to that?? Floyd figured them out intellegintely and beat them.. You guys hate to hear how Manny got KO 2X and has a draw on his record you say its old news and Pac has evolved as a fighter... But Mayweather hasnt there is no doubt that Floyd and Pac are 2 different types of fighter with no comparison.. mayweather is more cerebral and Pac is like a runaway train.. There is nothing wrong with that, but when comparing the 2 Floyd has fought all types of fighters all, he is called the pretty boy because he rarely gets hit even at the lighter weights were his resume is Stellar.. there is a reason for that...

I dont hold what Pac did more impressive to what Floyd did against Coralles.. He did it by fighting smart, and wearing down Diego with Laser like presicion...

Floyd is a skilled surgeon who cuts out your heart with precision and technique, were Manny is like an Axe murderer.. Sure you may like a good Slasher movie, but Im going with the smart guy who can carve you up clean and proper...

But Im done with you now

I think the thread should've been over at this post. JT ended it.

Seriously, anyone who thinks Pacquiao is going to "DESTROY" Floyd is just out of their mind. How can someone who is undefeated, fought different types of fighter, proven he can't be hit flush suddenly lose all his skills? I don't even want to get into it. I'm one of Pacquiao's biggest fans!! BUT! I know when he has a tough fight ahead of him.

I leave it at this, Mayweather has never seen a fighter like Pacquiao while on the other end, Pacquiao has never seen a fighter like Mayweather.

I can agree to disagree.. thats fair enough for me

[CFH]

Floyds gonna get his monkey ass knocked out. I can't wait

J.T I remember this guy say joe is now p4p king cause floyd is retired. wtf what a total hater. pac is second p4p, joe is third then suddenly since floyd is no longer number 1 joe jumps up to 1 and pac doesn't? haha what a hell

I've learned to enjoy pac doubters, cause its funny pac is being considered in the same sentence as henry armstrong and floyd is being considered as a PUSSY OF ALL TIME

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I hope you are simply unaware that that is a racist term.

[Julius Rain]

Floyds gonna get his monkey ass knocked out. I can't wait

J.T I remember this guy say joe is now p4p king cause floyd is retired. wtf what a total hater. pac is second p4p, joe is third then suddenly since floyd is no longer number 1 joe jumps up to 1 and pac doesn't? haha what a hell

I've learned to enjoy pac doubters, cause its funny pac is being considered in the same sentence as henry armstrong and floyd is being considered as a PUSSY OF ALL TIME

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I hope you are simply unaware that that is a racist term.

how is that a racist term? honestly somebody that thinks its a racist term may be the one who needs to check if they have racism thoughts.