Margarito caught cheating?

[Lance Uppercut]

Dan Rafael on Margarito Cheating:

If there was anything of a downer, it is the possibility that Margarito tried to cheat by entering loaded gloves. Fortunately, Mosley trainer Nazim Richardson -- who, by the way, also trains Hopkins, so he knows a thing or two about guys turning back the clock -- objected to the way Margarito's hands had been wrapped, and during the removal of the tape, a "plaster-like substance" was found and removed. The California commission is investigating, but it stands to reason that if Margarito, 30, did try to cheat, it wasn't the first time. It casts a huge shadow over his victory against Cotto, whom he is supposed to meet again in June despite the loss. That is, if he's not suspended, which he should be if he did try to cheat.

[Trainer Monkey]

If it happened,once that first punch landed,youd be warry as hell,you would get defensive and not want to throw much of anything except quick striking shots not blow your doors down shots

[AdamGB]

Did he look at all hesitant to come forwards though?

[Trainer Monkey]

Did he look at all hesitant to come forwards though?

It didnt look like Cotto wanted to commit to throwing power shots,your open for awhile when you go for a big power shots,and he didnt look happy committing to those type of shots.
I thought he was weight drained at the time,this is easily as good of an explanation

[Chino]

Did you see Margaritos face after the Cotto bout? Those were more than just mosquito bites and just imagine

How can you explain that Cotto's punches didn't back off Margarito at all?

Tony with out his cheating cast wraps will get owned by Cotto

Let's say that Cotto loses again...what kind of excuse will you look for this time? Last time you said that if it wasn't because of Cotto's nose, he would totally win among other excuses.

Phuk you China for trying to defend that cheating azz puto

Nope, I am not defending him. I have already stated that I am not justifying cheating and just waiting for the 100% confirmation as it is still being investigated. I don't blind myself just because I root for someone.
I think someone else (you) is the puto here who drools over Cotto and starts threads showing pics about his muscular back, pics about him wearing sunglasses, a video of someone pulling his shorts down, etc. Well, maybe you are not a puto, you are a putito. You don't need to come out of the closet, its obvious already.

[Taeth]

If it happened,once that first punch landed,youd be warry as hell,you would get defensive and not want to throw much of anything except quick striking shots not blow your doors down shots

I wonder how much of a difference it really makes to be honest. I mean Cotto is pretty vulnerable anyways, but he was never hurt by Mosley, and Margarito who I have never thought had great power was able to break him down with punches that landed a lot less cleanly. Regardless I think Margarito's power comes from the fact he is so accurate with his punches whne his opponent is one the ropes, he was really able to land almost every punch in combinations where Cotto was on the ropes as the fight progressed.

[Trainer Monkey]

If it happened,once that first punch landed,youd be warry as hell,you would get defensive and not want to throw much of anything except quick striking shots not blow your doors down shots

I wonder how much of a difference it really makes to be honest. I mean Cotto is pretty vulnerable anyways, but he was never hurt by Mosley, and Margarito who I have never thought had great power was able to break him down with punches that landed a lot less cleanly. Regardless I think Margarito's power comes from the fact he is so accurate with his punches whne his opponent is one the ropes, he was really able to land almost every punch in combinations where Cotto was on the ropes as the fight progressed.

See the thing is,you really have to commit to punches like an overhand cross, or a big uppercut.
You take a shot like what might have happened if his wraps were like that,you find yourself quickly considering the joys of your jab and tight hooks,and trying to time the guy

[boozeboxer]

Dan Rafael on Margarito Cheating:

If there was anything of a downer, it is the possibility that Margarito tried to cheat by entering loaded gloves. Fortunately, Mosley trainer Nazim Richardson -- who, by the way, also trains Hopkins, so he knows a thing or two about guys turning back the clock -- objected to the way Margarito's hands had been wrapped, and during the removal of the tape, a "plaster-like substance" was found and removed. The California commission is investigating, but it stands to reason that if Margarito, 30, did try to cheat, it wasn't the first time. It casts a huge shadow over his victory against Cotto, whom he is supposed to meet again in June despite the loss. That is, if he's not suspended, which he should be if he did try to cheat.

"it stands to reason" what kind of bullshit is this? ANd what kind of facts or anything does he have? Not shit. Pure speculation.

[SigmaMu]

Espinoza touched on the hand wraps controversy with Margarito. Last Saturday, 30-minutes before Margarito would head to the ring to fight Mosley, a “plaster-like” material was found in Margarito’s wraps by an inspector for the California State Athletic Commission. Mosley’s trainer, Nazim Richardson, saw something strange with Margarito’s wraps and asked to feel them.

“When he put the wrapping on, I asked if I could feel it and when I felt it, I was like, ‘Oh my goodness, this is too hard,’ ” Richardson said to Yahoo Sports.

“When the commission flipped the [tape] over, a little block of gauze-like plaster fell out. I said, ‘Unwrap the other hand,’ and they were saying, ‘Oh, oh, the other hand is good.’ I asked the commissioner, ‘What if I unwrap the other hand at the end of the fight and it falls out of there, too?’

Dean Lohuis, the co-interim executive director of the California State Athletic Commission, told Yahoo Sports that both pieces of the plaster-like material were slipped in underneath the legal tape that was already placed on Margarito’s hands by his trainer Javier Capetillo. Mosley’s attorney Judd Burstein had to arrive in the dressing room before a member of the commission put the pieces in a box and handed them to Lohuis.

“[Richardson] made them unwrap it. And when they unwrapped the other hand, another one fell out. It was wet with a little plaster on it.”

Margarito had to rewrap his hands three times before they were deemed legal.

Espinoza says that nobody on Margarito’s team did anything illegal and everything will be cleared up when the California commission is done with their investigation.

"We did not do anything illegal. What happened was that Capetillo prepared the gauzes that are used, two weeks before [the fight] and had them in a lump with cloth that apparently was humid and therefore hardened,” Espinoza said. “There was no substance like that there [the plaster]. The commission asked us to bandage his hands again and we did.”

[Trainer Monkey]

True or not,and Im reserving judgment,its proving how its a good idea to just use fresh materials in your wraps.
As my brother in law likes to say about when a hooker stole his wallet and he didnt go to the cops,"No matter what you say,its not a good story"

[El Kabong]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was true about Margarito trying to cheat. Look at the punches Cotto hit him with vs the punches he hit Cotto with then looking at the damage inflicted.....it doesn't add up to me

[hardcore_crash]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was true about Margarito trying to cheat. Look at the punches Cotto hit him with vs the punches he hit Cotto with then looking at the damage inflicted.....it doesn't add up to me

Look at the number of punches.

[Kel]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was true about Margarito trying to cheat. Look at the punches Cotto hit him with vs the punches he hit Cotto with then looking at the damage inflicted.....it doesn't add up to me

At the time we all thought Tony was just a hard punching machine, no matter where he hit you it hurt and in effect broke opponents down. When you think back to the Cotto fight he got busted up in two rounds, as soon as he started to get caught with shots he looked in more trouble than normal.

It really does make you think Lyle

[Taeth]

IMO Margarito didn't land what HBO said he did, he landed quite a few punches, but not that many, and a lot of them were glancing blows or ones where he gets no leverage into the punch.

[Althugz]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was true about Margarito trying to cheat. Look at the punches Cotto hit him with vs the punches he hit Cotto with then looking at the damage inflicted.....it doesn't add up to me

Thinking back, it doesn't add up. That fight was the fight that Margarito finally won me over but I'm almost always instinctively a good judge of character and talent...and something never sat well with me about Tony.

People spoke about how humble he was but I always found him an arrogant prick.

The whole, 'nobody wants to fight me' shit. Well, no shit sherlock, you had nothing to offer anybody!

Against Paul Williams he gave the man zero credit for his victory and said 'everyone in Mexico knows that I won this fight' - So he smokes crack too...

Clottey owned him for 4 rounds until he broke his hand and I believe he takes him if they fight again.

and now, if this is found out to be true, Cotto would have coasted to victory in their fight.

He also just got knocked the fuck out by a 37 year old..

And Mayweather ducked him keep dreaming Margo fans.

Maybe I'm being harsh on Tony and it's not his fault but come on..if your trainer is sticking two hard bits of plaster in your wraps, I think you'd notice. Therefore, he should take the blame for this as much as his cornermen.
He could have killed somebody