Haye V Klitschko OFF

[El Kabong]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives? Last time one of YOUR BOYS got KO'd all you Brits were on here moaning about how you "cried all night" and "How dare HBO show Ricky's family as he's lying there motionless on the canvas!"......will you cry when David Haye finally gets his shot (stays healthy) and get's battered from pillar to post

[WelshDevilRob]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives?

Not sure about the good folk in England. But you Klitschko fans in Mexico seem to be very happy that the Haye fight is off.

[El Kabong]

I've given examples of why the Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye fight was not great at the moment...I never said that I didn't want the fight to happen, I'm happy any time Wlad fights as I am sure the Pacquiao fans are happy when Manny fights, and the Pavlik fans and Cotto fans are happy when those guys fight.....but for the division as a whole this fight and this point in time was not going to heal the heavyweight division the way all you Haye fans think it would...even if the stars lined up right and Haye won the division would still be fucked on account of Don King and the WBA.

Ruslan Chagaev is WBA Champion (in recess), Wladimir Klitschko holds the IBF and WBO titles (and the lesser IBO title as well)...if Wladimir was to win then he would have a clear shot at Nicolay Valuev who tucked dick and ran screaming like a little girl when Wladimir's people offered him the fight. And not only would he have a shot at him, he would have a LEGITIMATE claim to the WBA belt ergo making him the holder of 3 belts and making the heavyweight division whole again (whole in that the people who wanted the WBA belt would have to actually fight someone good for a change, not in that Wlad would be the unified Champion or anything).

Had David Haye gone after the WBA belt and won it then SHIT YEAH this fight would be worth waiting for but right now Haye needs to get healthy, fight a top contender, and earn his shot.

[leftylee]

Lyle do you realistically feel Haye causes no threat whatsoever to Bitchsko ?

When was the last time Wlad faced anybody as fast, powerful and determined as Haye ?

[El Kabong]

leftylee when has David Haye shown that he can compete on Wladimir's level


SUUUURRRRRVEY SAYS

NEVER!!!!!!

[leftylee]

leftylee when has David Haye shown that he can compete on Wladimir's level


SUUUURRRRRVEY SAYS

NEVER!!!!!!

When did Tony Thompson, when did Hasim Rahman...what about biitch ass Ray Austin or even Sam Peter ?

Haye has stepped upto the plate numerous times and has shown power, speed and brutal knockouts in his 2 HW fights thus far. Something that Wlad can't deal with.

[El Kabong]

....those guys fought cruiserweights


Wlad KO'd Monte Barrett 9 years ago...."something Wlad can't deal with"....shiiiiiiit

[Nameless]

Lyle do you realistically feel Haye causes no threat whatsoever to Bitchsko ?

When was the last time Wlad faced anybody as fast, powerful and determined as Haye ?

I go with LEftylee there, Haye hasn't proved nothing and got shaken up by a far lesser opponent than Wlad. Haye has a decent speed but he's sure not a speedracer for the HW division. As for his power, he has proven great things at cruiserweights but nothing so far in the HW division, beside, Wlad is more powerful than him, sharper, bigger with a much similar speed (at least, in his range). Haye brings excitement because of his brash out mouth and super aptitude to self promote and to raise up passions but in all honesty, his chances to win are from slim to very slim.

[ross]

leftylee when has David Haye shown that he can compete on Wladimir's level


SUUUURRRRRVEY SAYS

NEVER!!!!!!

When did Tony Thompson, when did Hasim Rahman...what about biitch ass Ray Austin or even Sam Peter ?

Haye has stepped upto the plate numerous times and has shown power, speed and brutal knockouts in his 2 HW fights thus far. Something that Wlad can't deal with.

Rahman beat Lewis, Tony Thompson and Sam Peter were at least young undefeated ranked heavies, (the only comparison to Haye there is the young bit)

If Haye showed brutal power in beating Barrett then Cliff Couser must have shown, er............... even more brutaler power

[AdamGB]

Come on mate... Rahman was a one punch wonder and more importantly he was young when that happened... he's way past his best. He couldn't even out hustle or out fight fat super middle weight James Toney.

[El Kabong]

The Rahman fight was a gift to him for his patience and generosity in dealing with Vitali's injuries....it was a big paycheck for a guy who showed class a lot of class nothing more, nothing less.

Tony Thompson is an avoided fighter and as well he should be, he's 6'6 he's 250+ pounds, he's a southpaw and he has very good defense and a good jab.

Sam Peter was a very solid threat when Wlad fought him and before that fight Wlad was at a low point in his career...it was a VERY dangerous fight for Wlad to take, he risked his career on that fight, had he lost he would have had to retire.

Calvin Brock was a tough fighter too, not exciting, not overwhelmingly talented in 1 area or another, but he was a strong fighter, very solid

[fila907]

This is great for boxing.This fight meant nothen anyway.Now that this crap is out the way,Maybe Hayes can focus on a real good fight like Dawson.They need each other right now.Dawson vacted his tiltle to pursue bigger fights..Well here it is..Great fight for both of them.An super for boxing...I wanna see it..

[BIG H]

This is great for boxing.This fight meant nothen anyway.Now that this crap is out the way,Maybe Hayes can focus on a real good fight like Dawson.They need each other right now.Dawson vacted his tiltle to pursue bigger fights..Well here it is..Great fight for both of them.An super for boxing...I wanna see it..

Haye's natural bodyweight is around 230 pounds, fighting Dawson, would be like fighting Calzaghe

[ross]

I actually think the younger harder hitting Calzaghe would make Haye look stupid, I think Dawson would go in to a shell too much like he does.

Stupid in the fact that someone so much smaller could live with him to be honest, lets face it, weve now all learn that size difference means nothing and no matter how big a puncher you are you still have to land them.

One things for sure, if Lewis, Tyson or Holyfield were still going, or if Haye was around 10 years ago, I dont see him wanting to move up

He sees Wlad as vulnerable, which he is but Wlad may be a vulnerable heavy, whereas Haye is a vulnerable cruiser and Hayes punches couldnt make as much of an impression on Barrett as Couser did.

My Gyms owner was talking to me yesterday, he likes Haye and the way Haye gos in interviews and praises the use of weights for his strength, as like he said, its good for his buisiness but he also said there is something fishy about Booth saying Haye has a chronic back injury but will be fine to fight in 3 weeks??

[GAME]

Haye cant afford to be picky. He needs to just fight anybody. He has had 1 fight in 1 year against Monte Barrett and he has nothing lined up so its not really good enough .