Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Pacquiao Morales III

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Well Imo the warrior spirit in Morales is gone . He sat out teh count shaking his head in just 3 rounds . He reminded me of Benn against Collins . Once the heart has gone , he may aswel retire . Barreras warrior spirit will never be extinguished . I cant imagine him going down like that but then again I could never imagine that happening to Morales . With 4 out of 5 losses its clear he isnt the fighter he was cuz he beat Pac not too long ago . This time though he was just thrown to the wolves

I think you might have missed on thing though...Pac has definently improved. He got hit with less punches last night...but when pressed this time...unlike the other 2 fights...he pressed back.

He took Erick's biggest weapon & used it against him. He beat Erik at his own game.

Respect to Morales. He's a great warrior...& if anyone wants to say that that is an overused word today...find me other fighters that fight the way that Manny & Erik do. There aint many.

Morales thought that he was in shape for the battle & he was...he wasn't thrown to the wolves...he was thrown in with a warrior, who by Morales's own admission, was just better than him. For that I respect Morales. He admitted to the fact that he had been beaten & that is that.

I'm a Morales fan through & through...facts are facts. Pacquiao is the beat 130lb fighter on the planet. Face it...he just is. Morales has 5 losses out of 53 fights. Morales could still beat top 10 fighters excluding Pac & Marquez. He lost to a boxer & he lost to another GOAT, Marco Antonio Barrera.

Nothing wrong with that. Saying "With 4 out of 5 losses its clear he isnt the fighter he was cuz he beat Pac not too long ago" could be as wrong as you think that it is right.

In all actuallity only 2 men have beaten him...MAB & Pac. Zaheer was a boxer & a mover...Morales is not dead...he's just hit the twilight of his career.

He should still be respected in my opinion.

Ofcourse he still deserves respect . The point im making is that look at the punishment he took from Barrera round after round in the 1st fight . His body was able to withstand it . Against Pac hewent down early and decided to sit it out . Now what im saying is maybe Pac got Erik at the right time just as Torrencampo got Pac at the right time . Erik shouldnt be judged on that performance , even the commentators said , " this is not the same Erik Morales we know " Morales was tired after just 2 rounds . No doubt in my mind that Pac was beating a washed up fighter

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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....

Agreed. No way Barrera beats Pac. He looked less than stellar in both the Juarez fights.

. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics

Apparently you didn't pay too close of attention watching Pac dismantle Barrera.

Middle of the fight MAB was looking for a way out...calling legal shots low, crying over butts that didn't happen, & sitting on his seat in disgust much like Morales did.

Barrera wanted his corner to throw in the towel...that's a fact.

he didnt do no mas he was getting pounded trying to fight back like brave warrior but that last punch sent him about 4 foot across the ring if it would of gone on morales could of got brain damage he was taking alot of shots and he has already been in enough wars already

Morales was more in shock of what just happened than anything.

Repsect to Pac...that was a beautiful war. Both men fought there hearts out.

[Wacko3205]

CC for the hard work Wacko...it seems like Pacquiao's dominance in the odds were matched in the ring, and that Morales' career is nigh on over after this huge loss for him. I thought about getting up in the middle of the night to check in, but in the end i had to get up at 8.30am anyway, so i needed the sleep. Shame it wasn't more competitive especially for the Morales fans, but Pacquiao seems to have shown he's the best in the division by far, and will be for a while.

What have we got coming up next week, or is it wifey time mate?

Juan Manuel Marquez vs Jimrex Jaca baby!!!!

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Morales wasn't completely washed up.....He did beat Pac only last year and was winning their battle this year until he got stopped. Nothing I have seen from MAB suggests that he would win,especially the fact that he has such a hard time with Juarez the first time,and Juarez is no pacman....

Agreed. No way Barrera beats Pac. He looked less than stellar in both the Juarez fights.

. . . and Barrera is no Morales . No way will he fold like a piece of paper, pulling a no mas in 3 rounds . Neither will he adopt suicidal tactics

Apparently you didn't pay too close of attention watching Pac dismantle Barrera.

Middle of the fight MAB was looking for a way out...calling legal shots low, crying over butts that didn't happen, & sitting on his seat in disgust much like Morales did.

Barrera wanted his corner to throw in the towel...that's a fact.

he didnt do no mas he was getting pounded trying to fight back like brave warrior but that last punch sent him about 4 foot across the ring if it would of gone on morales could of got brain damage he was taking alot of shots and he has already been in enough wars already

Morales was more in shock of what just happened than anything.

Repsect to Pac...that was a beautiful war. Both men fought there hearts out.

Thats not a fact , its your opinion . Whats fact is Barreras champ and Pacs gota take the belt off him . If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him. Barreras won everything since that night in Nov 03 Pac , Marquez and Morales have all gone on to lose .

I dont read too much into the Pac - Barrera fight cuz it was pretty clear Barrera lacked the focus of the Hamed or Morales fights . Pac is improving but he got beat by a faded Morales. As for the fight this morning , no need for over analysis . A strong Pacquiao overpowered a former great who cant cut it at this level anymore

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Thats not a fact , its your opinion . Whats fact is Barreras champ and Pacs gota take the belt off him . If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him. Barreras won everything since that night in Nov 03 Pac , Marquez and Morales have all gone on to lose .

Well...Pac's the champ now, also...again...& he's already taken Barrera once...he'll do it again.

ook who Barrera has fought since he lost to Pac. Look at who Marquez & Morales fought.

Also...don't start that goofy "If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him." crap. I'm here to talk boxing not play "G-Unit thug life balla playa hater games". Any rational adult can enjoy boxing without having to pull his dick out...so let's not go there.

Barrera since getting his ass handed to him by Pac fought & beat Morales (who you say is washed up...who turned around & beat Pac) & struggled against Juarez...we shouldn't mention the other names on that record...point is...MAB is not ready for Pac...but let them fight & watch Pac eat him alive like he did the first time.

Barrera's days of fighting off the backfoot are over & he can not handle Pac's pressure anymore than Morales could.

Marquez the natural counter puncher is the only one that's got a chance.

I dont read too much into the Pac - Barrera fight cuz it was pretty clear Barrera lacked the focus of the Hamed or Morales fights . Pac is improving but he got beat by a faded Morales. As for the fight this morning , no need for over analysis . A strong Pacquiao overpowered a former great who cant cut it at this level anymore

Barrera by his own admittance stated that he saw a younger hungrier version of himself in Pac. Barrera knew that he was getting in over his head...& he ended up drowning.

If you don't want to over analyze the morning then just keep in mind that he has beaten 4 of the top 5 Mexican fighters...& that is saying a lot.

I hate to hear excuses being made for fighters when there are none.
Barrera got beaten because Pac was too fast, young & powerful.
Same to be said against Morales & Larios.
Pac drew with/lost to Marquez because of Marquez's counterpunching boxing ability.

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Thats not a fact , its your opinion . Whats fact is Barreras champ and Pacs gota take the belt off him . If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him. Barreras won everything since that night in Nov 03 Pac , Marquez and Morales have all gone on to lose .

Well...Pac's the champ now, also...again...& he's already taken Barrera once...he'll do it again.

ook who Barrera has fought since he lost to Pac. Look at who Marquez & Morales fought.

Also...don't start that goofy "If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him." crap. I'm here to talk boxing not play "G-Unit thug life balla playa hater games". Any rational adult can enjoy boxing without having to pull his dick out...so let's not go there.

Barrera since getting his a** handed to him by Pac fought & beat Morales (who you say is washed up...who turned around & beat Pac) & struggled against Juarez...we shouldn't mention the other names on that record...point is...MAB is not ready for Pac...but let them fight & watch Pac eat him alive like he did the first time.

Barrera's days of fighting off the backfoot are over & he can not handle Pac's pressure anymore than Morales could.

Marquez the natural counter puncher is the only one that's got a chance.

I dont read too much into the Pac - Barrera fight cuz it was pretty clear Barrera lacked the focus of the Hamed or Morales fights . Pac is improving but he got beat by a faded Morales. As for the fight this morning , no need for over analysis . A strong Pacquiao overpowered a former great who cant cut it at this level anymore

Barrera by his own admittance stated that he saw a younger hungrier version of himself in Pac. Barrera knew that he was getting in over his head...& he ended up drowning.

If you don't want to over analyze the morning then just keep in mind that he has beaten 4 of the top 5 Mexican fighters...& that is saying a lot.

I hate to hear excuses being made for fighters when there are none.
Barrera got beaten because Pac was too fast, young & powerful.
Same to be said against Morales & Larios.
Pac drew with/lost to Marquez because of Marquez's counterpunching boxing ability.

Whoa cool down bro . Enough with the insults already . I can see youre still hurting form the Pac defeat last night . Thats cool, just give it a little time to sink in .

We evidently differ in opinions but you aint guna convinve me Pac is the second coming just cuz he beat up on a warmed up corpse . Likewise you dont wana see that Barrera has won everything since and can win a fight in second gear without putting all that much effort into it .

All I was saying is if you really think that Pac can beat Barrera then go bet big on it . Surely tha makes sense . I duno why ya have to start taking cheap shots at my sig for. Pacs been stopped before . What are your excuses for his defeats . This boxing anything can happen . Barreras been written off before and proved everyone wrong and he'll do it again . You'll see

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Whoa cool down bro . Enough with the insults already . I cant see youre still hurting form the Pac defeat last night . Thats cool, just give it a little time to sink in .

We evidently differ in opinions but you aint guna convinve me Pac is the second coming just cuz he beat up on a warmed up corpse . Likewise you dont wana see that Barrera has won everything since and can win a fight in second gear without putting all that much effort into it .

All I was saying is if you really think that Pac can beat Barrera then go bet big on it . Surely tha makes sense . I duno why ya have to start taking cheap shots at my sig for. Pacs been stopped before . What are your excuses for his defeats . This boxing anything can happen . Barreras been written off before and proved everyone wrong and he'll do it again . You'll see

Excuses for who's defeats?

I'm all for Barrera winning...just like I was for Morales...I'm not a Pac-Fan...but you can't deny that the kid is quite the item at 130.

I didn't insult you...I simply said don't start that "If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him." crap...I don't bet on crap or play those games...I just don't think that Barrera's gonna win it...he was all there prior to the fight & then everyone made excuses for why he lost...the brain plate & all that...the very plate that Barrera has had his whole life that he said was not a factor.

Morales made no excuses...too fast, too strong, too much for Barrera.

***Missed my point I was trying to make...I don't make up excuses for fighters. If they lose they lose...legit issues are all that matter as excuses.

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They're showing the replay now here in the Philippines at 12:30 A.M. This is pure savagery but with a drama. I feel really sorry for Erik though. His body flew out on the second kd and the third looked as if he just let himself slip backward and fall; he definitely had enough of this savagery. That was a right decision and I wanted the ref to stop the fight after the second kd.

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Whoa cool down bro . Enough with the insults already . I cant see youre still hurting form the Pac defeat last night . Thats cool, just give it a little time to sink in .

We evidently differ in opinions but you aint guna convinve me Pac is the second coming just cuz he beat up on a warmed up corpse . Likewise you dont wana see that Barrera has won everything since and can win a fight in second gear without putting all that much effort into it .

All I was saying is if you really think that Pac can beat Barrera then go bet big on it . Surely tha makes sense . I duno why ya have to start taking cheap shots at my sig for. Pacs been stopped before . What are your excuses for his defeats . This boxing anything can happen . Barreras been written off before and proved everyone wrong and he'll do it again . You'll see

Excuses for who's defeats?

I'm all for Barrera winning...just like I was for Morales...I'm not a Pac-Fan...but you can't deny that the kid is quite the item at 130.

I didn't insult you...I simply said don't start that "If you are that confident in Pac then bet ya house on him." crap...I don't bet on crap or play those games...I just don't think that Barrera's gonna win it...he was all there prior to the fight & then everyone made excuses for why he lost...the brain plate & all that...the very plate that Barrera has had his whole life that he said was not a factor.

Morales made no excuses...too fast, too strong, too much for Barrera.

Pac has been K.O'd in a couple rounds twice , a NC with Sanchez . A draw with Marquexz which I think he lost then he got beat by Morales . Are his excuses for those losses legit ? He beats up on a faded fighter twice and everyone gets carried away but Raheem skooled Erik too surley with hindsight you can see that this wasnt a prime Morales . Maybe im being blind but from what I can see Pac has to prove it against Guzman,Barrios etc not a guy coming off 3 out of 4 losses .

I can see you are not much of a Barrera fan but you cant deny he has surprised many throughout his career . Pac is a strong , fit fighter with more left in teh tank at this stage but if he thinks he'll be facing teh same Marco again he'll be very much surprised. Look at the difference in the two Rocky fights . Metal plate , weight draining, socks etc . Doesnt matter what excuses you use Barrera will put it right next time. Pac is a furious fighter and Erik played right into his hands this morning . Lets see what happens in the Barrera rematch eh . There have been bigger shocks

[Wacko3205]

Everyone has been :colclick: ed

For those that are Morales fans & heart broken...I hate it for you.

For those that are Pac-Fans...congrats.

For those that are boxing fans...we got one hell of a show last night!

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6:30am?

Most people get out of bed at that time... what have you been doing all night?... :P

Sorry Adam, but I have no idea where you get your definition of most people, but I get up at the last possible moment that will allow me to have a shower and still get to work just about on time, so about 8.50am, and anyone getting up that time of the morning either work shifts or have young kids.

8:50... how the hell do you get up, eat, S***, get dressed and get to work in 10 minutes?

Is it one of those comedy things where you run down the street half dressed still brushing your teeth? :P

didn't work shifts but I worked 7:30 till 4 full time so I always got up at 6:30.

Ok guyz, you may stop arguing. Let me explain. I've been restless the last couple days and having some sleepless nights, maybe because of a pre-fight jitters (ya I know I'm not the one going up the ring but I can't help it) so I've been punching the keys on my computer to while away my time. You can see all my ramblings here at the Wacko's - that's what happens to people who don't sleep; got it, guys?

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On behalf of all Pac-fans here, thanx Wacho. And to Morales fans, we're definitely not gloating on this victory and if you say Morales would have ko'd Pac in his prime, I will certainly not argue with you. Luv ya all!

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Pac Beats Barrera again for me...

I know it
and even
Barrera knows it...

why do you think this fight aint happened Pac wants it he'll fight anyone even the avoided one avoided the rematch.

you can make a case for the distractions in there first fight and the metal plate in Barreras head but that just dont wash with me because Barrera has always had his rematches on fights lost straight away.

but not against Pacquiao and that speaks volumes to me

oh that and the fact Barrera has been in wars but has never taken a beaten so badly like the night he faced Pacquiao dont think Barerra won a round if my memory servers me right....

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he didnt just get beat that night HE HAD HIS HEART BROKEN.

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Saddo - Well Barrera won the 1st round against Pac 10-8 cuz of the knockdown but I could see straight away it wasnt a prime Marco cuz there was no intensity about him .

Barrera is a business man . Morales is stupid for taking rematches straight away when he isnt ready . I suppose Marquez is running scared of Pac too ? Barrera is a warrior and no way would he run from any challenge . Thats an insult to a legendary fighter . When the time is right he will fight Pac again and win . His stamina may not be what it once was and maybe his desireisnt burning as strong but he has a boxing brain that far exceeds that of Pacquiao and he will prove it

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I always always hate these type of fights. Truth is i thought morales should of retired after his last fight with pac, but i didn't think he would, and wasn't shocked to hear of a rematch.

But these fights don't do either fighter justice, its always going to be 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. The truth pac most likley did improve alot, but also erik is far past his best and pretty washed up. So it's some people need to voice their opinion of of eik was washed up, which is true none the less, but unfair to pac 'coz everything he worked for is like ebing taken away from him to consider morales as just a wash up in the fight.

This is why, in fights like these i just like to take my hat off to both fighters, for once again getting in that ring for our pleasure (and a big fat check for them after) 'coz that;s the only way to give both fighters who really should't of been in the ring together to start with the true credit they deserve for the fight.