Voronin is ok, he needs playing time....what was that everyone was saying about Keane "strikers need regular playing time to be at their best". AV just needs some time...would have been nice to play him against some lower teir teams like oooooh I don't know Stoke. In the long run he's not the only answer for the squad's troubles but he can help and he's cheaper than anyone else.
Rafa had a short time and short funds to put this squad into shape where they could contend for the title.
Mate what games have you been watching?? Voronin is fucking wank, Robbie Keane is a proven world class goalscorer who has scored goals for top teams including a spell at Inter Milan and has the most goals ever for the Republic of Ireland, Voronin isnt good enough to clean Keanes boots.
If you really think Voronin is good enough for a team like Liverpool god help you.
Heres a few stats for you Lyle to prove my point about Keane compared to Voronin.
Keane
Club Appearances 389 Goals 142
International Appearances 91 Goals 39
Total 480 / 181 Goal every 2.6 games
Voronin
Club Appearances 235 Goals 83
International Appearances 57 Goals 6
Total 292 / 89 Goal every 3.2 games
I think the International record of Voronin proves he is shite!!!
First off Ireland soccer just plain sucks...I am allowed to say that and I'm American so that's how far down the totem pole those guys have fallen off.
FOR Liverpool
2008 Robbie Keane 19 games 5 goals
2007 Andriy Voronin 20 games 5 goals
That's even steven buddy...and for those people who complained about Keane not getting PT well since when has Voronin gotten regular PT at Liverpool? We have him, he's decent we might as well use him. Right now we have to play with what we have and for some people it might suck a whole hell of a lot but for now give AV a shot see how he does and if he's not able to carry his weight then ship him off to Germany (where he did very well BTW 20 games 11 goals, I know the class isn't the same but still) and let Pacheco get tested a bit. He's a young kid and needs seasoning if we've got a lost season then let Pacheco get some reps and see if he's quality yet.
I can tell you one thing Dirk Kuyt and Ryan Babel aren't the answer at the other striker and neither is Gerrard, why the hell we would put our best box to box player waaaaay up front is beyond me.
Our issues don't stem from Striker, they are from midfield where NOBODY controls the ball, and nobody makes their passes. A midfield of Benayoun, Gerrard, Mascherano, and Riera is the best hope we have to win and to do that then we need someone else to play upfront with Torres other than Gerrard.
Not that I am saying he's the problem or anything but who does Torres really play well with, to be honest the only answer I come up with is Peter Crouch. Keane didn't match with him, Kuyt did ok I guess, hell even David Villa doesn't mesh with Torres' game...when they played together for Spain Torres never scored and when Villa got subbed off for Torres scored his only goal without Villa on the pitch. I think Torres is just tricky to plan an attack around.
Hahaha funny you say that Ireland footy sucks, i dont disagree but thats actully makes his record even better!!!!
He plays for an average team and still scores the goals against much better teams pity Voronin doesnt seem to do the same his international record is absolute shite, Keane is by far the better player ask any football fan on here.
Liverpool have got off to a shitty start. Two losses out of three, surely it can only get better. I had high hopes of success this year, but this ain't the way to do it. Pull yer socks up yer lazy bints!
this guy is fucking nuts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIWWYOqG_9s
if he had walked off and punched the coach I would nominate him to be the earth's representative when the aliens come.
that was a sick tackle
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
4-0 Liverpool over Burnley
Benayoun was hands down the man of the match with a hat trick and who set up that final goalVoronin! He also set up some other opportunities for his teammates and himself...one where he really should have put it away but struck the ball wrong.
Benayoun played great, hopefully he's starting from here on out! Everyone played pretty good, even Lucas the player who catches the most flack from me played pretty good, no horrible tackles, no cards, few penalties.
Phillip Degen even came on as a sub and did very well for Johnson, and N'Gog did ok as well, Voronin set him up for a goal too, but N'Gog was off side.
Great game by the Reds, a win was expected, but it was very nice for them to win it going away.
Quite happy that they made it because they are on the short line and seeing how the other big teams are doing, I am really worried about Liverpool, for the moment, they are holding on but the other big ones from the Big 4 must lose or have medium performances and the Reds must keep going or it will be a premature end.
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Liverpool just need to win the games infront of them, Tottenham and Man City will take their fair share of games away from Arsenal, Cheslea, and I don't think Man United will be the same without Ronaldo anyway.
I would like for the lineup we used today to be our regular lineup, only switching Mascherano in for Lucas. I think Kuyt plays ok with Torres, he's one of the few that can.
I wonder how Aquilani is going to affect our lineup
Watch MOTD tonight lads we were amazing played some amazing football, and basically brought the Spurs bad to earth with a bang and made them realise there nowhere near the level of the big boys
Chelsea and United thats who the league is between with Chelsea the slight favs, but we have to remember the African Nations cup is coming and two of Chelseas best players are gone for 4 weeks, who knows how that will effect them, still Chelsea and United for me with Liverpool third and Arseanl to scrape 4th from City.
I don't care about Man City or Arsenal but Adebayor is a bit of a shit![]()
Last edited by OumaFan; 09-12-2009 at 08:37 PM.
Adebayor the drity fukking twat.
Robin Van Persie is also a twat. Nobody is talking about the lunge on Ade that caused him to retaliate. And why the fuck is nobody talking about Van Persie's goal celebration.
He stopped dead 6 feet away from the South Stand right in front of the city fans and mouthed 'fuck off, go fuck yourself, fucking come on, fuck you'. Eboue had to drag him away.
Only our fans behaved properly and didn't throw chairs and bottles at him. Maybe we should have done. It's every bit as provacative to do that. Don't get me wrong, what Ade did was stupid but fuck me let's have it right. He's put up with 80 mins of wanker chants, and songs about his Dad washing Elephants - he has every right to be happy with his goal. Just a shame the same fans giving him the abuse can't handle him celebrating a goal in front of them. Fannies.
Last edited by ono; 09-13-2009 at 10:00 AM.
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