Mayweather Hatton faceoff!!

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

WOW!

16 PAGES!!!!

[Dizaster]

Right so we cant talk about Castillo who at worst came very close to beating Mayweather a long time ago but we can talk about Eamonn Magee who had one good round against Hatton a long time ago.

Its relevant if someone thinks its relevant, thats the bottom line.

If Hatton had rematched Collazo and beaten him soundly would people disregard his first effort? of course they wouldnt. It still offers some insight into what another fighter can achieve, same with Mayweather Castillo 1.

Im not saying you can't bring it up but when people are bringing up first fight they always seem to forget they had a rematch and Mayweather easily won plus if you remember didn't Mayweather have injury to his shoulder in first fight ??

You'll have to go back and read my long post again as I updated explaining why I brought up that fight.... I was just talking about how the first fight between Castillo and Mayweather played out, Style wise... To put it in the right context, you can complete forget the fighters names or whether they had a rematch or whether whoever won or lost... Until that fight I didn't think anyone could even come close to match the style of one of the fighters in that match... After that fight I saw that if attacked in the right way, on the right night, by the right person, his style is not completely unstoppable..

That is the absolute sole reason I brougt up that fight... If there were another fight with a person with a similar style to Floyd, who i'd witnessed dominate every opponent comfortably through a bunch of fights, and personally been impressed by their performace to the point where I came to the conclusion they were almost unstoppable... But then someone came along that fought them a little different to everyone else, and managed to even up the score, I would have made reference to that fight instead so people don't get mislead as to the point i'm making.

Although i'm sure someone would have said that is even MORE irrelevant because it's different fighters.


All i'm talking about is styles. And how, once upon a time I thought one style and how one person used it was unstoppable. But I was then fortunate enough to see it matched by someone. Which was a huge suprise at the time. But none the less made me realise no one is unstoppable.

You just have to put why I brought that fight up into context....

"The only relevance I was drawing upon from that fight was that you would expect Ricky to come out hounding Floyd the way Castillo did.. Whether or not it works as well for Ricky as it did for Castillo,, well,, that question is why so many people will be looking forward to watching this fight December 8th.."

I understand Ricky does not fight the exact same as Castillo, and yes blah blah Castillo lost the second fight comfortably. I'm only saying, and this is probably relevant to every fight mayweather has had since Castillo 1,,,, and that is,,,, if ANY fighter can fight as well as Castillo did in that 1 fight,,, then they have a chance at beating Mayweather... That's ALL i'm saying... It's just a very plain statement that you can make about ANY boxer in the sport at one stage or another and it's either true or not true based on personal opinion....


If I want to change it around to be a total dick, I would say, Castillo nearly beat Floyd in that fight, maybe really did beat him... Hatton can beat Castillo, so therefor Hatton is going to beat Floyd.... NOW EVERYONE should start argueing with me.... and i've heard people use a statement like that to argue their point.... that is a million miles from what i'm saying.


To summarize,

All I wanted to point out is that I had personally obsevered a number of Ricky's, and a number of Floyd's fights leading up until now, and made my own personal judgmenet on a way that I thought Ricky may or may not be able to even up the score with a Mayweather, who has the potential to dominate just about every boxer out their if they don't bring their A+ game plus some....

I am ONLY basing this statement on the first PFB Castillo fight yes... Because that's the only fight were i've seen anyone come even close to Floyd.... IF that fight did not exist, I would be here stating,
"That from my personal observations, I don't see a way that Ricky can beat Floyd".....

That's absolutely it..

How I personally came to that conclusion by observing certain situations I think is completley relevant... In the same respect, it's irrelevant if Castillo and Mayweather have fought 100 times since then... I'm only refering to one single situation that had relevance to me and my opinion of how 2 styles make a fight..... and in this case, a fight that was a hell of a lot closer than ANY of Mayweathers others... and if that fight did not exist, my opion of whether anyone could match Mayweather would be completely different...

I'm only trying to add another 1% to the discussion by making reference to the one time Floyd has been matched, and the style that did it....
I'm not trying to make that 1% into 99% and twist it around, and tell everyone what's what, and why my statement will be the be all and end all for this upcoming fight...
That would make me a total moron.


I hope someone understands what I mean... I'm running late for work to explain that.

[Dizaster]

All i'm pointing out is - In one fight I saw Mayweather troubled, and in one fight I saw Hatton troubled..


That's it..

I feel like i'm trying to make a statement like "at one stage of my life I took a sh!t" (in one fight mayweather was matched), and someone is trying argue against that by saying "But you've had a million p!sses as well" (but in the second fight he won easily).... yes mayweather won the second fight easily, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying... And Castillo Mayweather 1 probably has nothing to do with Mayweather Hatton if you look at it, or a lot to do with it... It depends on the exact thing your looking at at the time... okay i'm running out the door now!

[ICB]

You'll have to go back and read my long post again as I updated explaining why I brought up that fight.... I was just talking about how the first fight between Castillo and Mayweather played out, Style wise... To put it in the right context, you can complete forget the fighters names or whether they had a rematch or whether whoever won or lost... Until that fight I didn't think anyone could even come close to match the style of one of the fighters in that match... After that fight I saw that if attacked in the right way, on the right night, by the right person, his style is not completely unstoppable..


Hatton doesn't fight the sameway Castillo does Castillo took his time more and fights different yes he did swarm Mayweather but not like Hatton does like i said a better comparison is Mayweather vs Chavez because Chavez is near enough same height threw high output of punches 90 and 100 punches every round and swarmed Mayweather near enough the same way Hatton will.



I understand Ricky does not fight the exact same as Castillo, and yes blah blah Castillo lost the second fight comfortably. I'm only saying, and this is probably relevant to every fight mayweather has had since Castillo 1,,,, and that is,,,, if ANY fighter can fight as well as Castillo did in that 1 fight,,, then they have a chance at beating Mayweather... That's ALL i'm saying... It's just a very plain statement that you can make about ANY boxer in the sport at one stage or another and it's either true or not true based on personal opinion....

But thats the thing Mayweather had injury to his shoulder in first meeting which is true not false and proved in rematch when 100 percent he could beat Castillo easy Castillo did not change his style he was exactly the same as he was in first meeting Mayweather on other hand changed his style and kept fight in middle of the ring at all times and when Castillo tried to bully Mayweather to the ropes Mayweather would get out of there fast and go back to the middle of the ring he was in control at all times and won quite easily thats why first fight holds no water because not only has Mayweather improved since those fights he beat Castillo comfortably in rematch.


If I want to change it around to be a total dick, I would say, Castillo nearly beat Floyd in that fight, maybe really did beat him... Hatton can beat Castillo, so therefor Hatton is going to beat Floyd.... NOW EVERYONE should start argueing with me.... and i've heard people use a statement like that to argue their point.... that is a million miles from what i'm saying.

Yes and then i would comeback and say Hatton beat a shot Castillo and Castillo was clearly not the fighter he was 5 years ago when he fought Mayweather yes it was impressive Hatton was only one to ko Castillo and yes i give Hatton credit but facts are facts.



All i'm pointing out is - In one fight I saw Mayweather troubled, and in one fight I saw Hatton troubled..


That's it..

I feel like i'm trying to make a statement like "at one stage of my life I took a sh!t" (in one fight mayweather was matched), and someone is trying argue against that by saying "But you've had a million p!sses as well" (but in the second fight he won easily).... yes mayweather won the second fight easily, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying... And Castillo Mayweather 1 probably has nothing to do with Mayweather Hatton if you look at it, or a lot to do with it... It depends on the exact thing your looking at at the time... okay i'm running out the door now!


Sorry but i don't understand if they wouldn't of had a rematch then i would understand but they did and Mayweather won easily.

Difference with Hatton is that he didn't have rematch and promised Collazo a rematch and didn't give him one and that was pretty much just as controversial as Mayweather vs Castillo 1 and Hatton did not prove he could beat Collazo easy so there for i can say Hatton has only fought one fast fighter in his career and look what happened now if he would of had a rematch and beat him easy then i wouldn't be saying that but fact is he didn't give Collazo a rematch and thats left question marks where as Mayweather had close controversial decision like Hatton but proved he can beat Castillo easily in rematch and left no question marks no doubt.

[SweetPea]

#1 PFP, right here fellas:

[:::PSL:::]

#1 PFP, right here fellas:

[ICB]

Thats Joel Julio Pacstraightleft Sweetpea is being sarcastic about when SLK said Joel Julio was better challenge than ODLH.

[Mr140]

man i still have not seen that dude before he must not be that great because i watch alot of matchs and have never seen him

[eagle]

man i still have not seen that dude before he must not be that great because i watch alot of matchs and have never seen him

He is not that great really. A decent prospect yes, a bigger challenge than ODLH? No. Has SLK123 been on recently?

[eagle]

THIS THREAD CANNOT DIE, IT NEEDS TO BREAK ALL RECORDS!!!!

[boozeboxer]

How is this thread going to break all records?? Simple. The same way Landmine950's continued on for pages that would make J.K. Rowling weary..........ignorance and humour on levels that few but Saddoans can attain.

[ICB]

How is this thread going to break all records?? Simple. The same way Landmine950's continued on for pages that would make J.K. Rowling weary..........ignorance and humour on levels that few but Saddoans can attain.

I think there has been alot of good debating in this thread with exception of some and they know who they are.

[eagle]

How is this thread going to break all records?? Simple. The same way Landmine950's continued on for pages that would make J.K. Rowling weary..........ignorance and humour on levels that few but Saddoans can attain.

There has been good debate, and best of all the Hatton fanboy PBF haters have been proved wrong over and over again.... What else could u want?

[Spicoli]

Right so we cant talk about Castillo who at worst came very close to beating Mayweather a long time ago but we can talk about Eamonn Magee who had one good round against Hatton a long time ago.

Its relevant if someone thinks its relevant, thats the bottom line.

If Hatton had rematched Collazo and beaten him soundly would people disregard his first effort? of course they wouldnt. It still offers some insight into what another fighter can achieve, same with Mayweather Castillo 1.

Bow before Your maker!

[eagle]

Right so we cant talk about Castillo who at worst came very close to beating Mayweather a long time ago but we can talk about Eamonn Magee who had one good round against Hatton a long time ago.

Its relevant if someone thinks its relevant, thats the bottom line.

If Hatton had rematched Collazo and beaten him soundly would people disregard his first effort? of course they wouldnt. It still offers some insight into what another fighter can achieve, same with Mayweather Castillo 1.

Bow before Your maker!

The funny thing about that whole post is the fighters talked about. So what if Floyd had some trouble with Castillo, he is arguably an all time top ten at 135, and one of the best p4p fighters of his generation in his prime, and thats smack bang when floyd fought him.
On the other hand Hatton was troubled by Magee, talented journeyman at best, probably never a top ten guy in his weight division, and he would NEVER have troubled Floyd at 140. Nuff said