Previously...on LOST!

[jbirdy]

is anyone else gaggin for a ben flashback episode? that would answer so much i reckon, and this jacob fella would be in the mix there somewhere aswell.
and el gamo kate sure is a fox. i cant beleive that little munchkin charlie lord of the rings hobbit geezer is banging her in real life. but lost annoys me by killing off the hotties. first shannon (she was fine) and then that sexy nikki girl that they only really introduced five minutes earlier. but juliet is pretty tasty aswell so its all good. did you know that the actress who plays juliet was also in the lesbo gia film with angelina jolie.

[El Gamo]

Are you being serious about the lesbo part? Show me some pics then!! Ben's flashback would be awesome but I don't know if it'll happen.

Jacob,"him",the leader? The way Ben sopke about him was scary,his eyes lit up! Here's some info on Jacob,a Biblical reference.

* Jacob is literally translated in Hebrew as "holds the heel," and is a play on words that means "trickster" or "deceiver." His mother Rebekah named him thus because while his twin brother Esau was firstborn, Jacob came out of the womb hanging on to his heel.
o Esau was favored by their father Isaac but Jacob was favored by their mother.
o Esau was the firstborn, but Jacob conned him into selling his birthright.
o Jacob impersonated Esau in order to gain a blessing from his father Isaac meant for Esau.
o Esau was an outdoorsman/hunter while Jacob was studious, reserved, and "dwelled in tents".
o Jacob had twelve sons, one of whom was named Benjamin. Jacob was the patriarch of what became the 12 Tribes of Israel, people chosen by God to be "set apart" and special.
o Esau intermarried outside his people and founded the kingdom of Edom in what is now southwestern Israel.
* Jacob envisioned a "Ladder to Heaven" (described in the Book of Genesis 28:11-19) during his flight from his brother Esau.
o According to the Jewish teachings in the Midrash, the ladder signified the exiles which the Jewish people would suffer before the coming of the Messiah. The top step on the ladder is supposedly guarded by a vision of Esau and represents Edom which God assures Jacob will be brought down at the End of Days.
* According to the Book of Malachi, God "loved Jacob but hated his brother Esau" REMEMBER THE BRAIN WASHED GUY SAYING GOD LOVES YOU AS HE LOVED JACOB?(Malachi 1:1-3). This is the only time God specifically says he "loves" an individual in the Hebrew books.
* Jacob was later given the name "Israel," which means "Struggled with God," with an implication of prevailing.
* Jacob was led to believe that his favorite son Joseph was dead after Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery. After the brothers went to Egypt during a famine, Joseph set up his brother Benjamin for a crime he did not commit, then revealed his true identity to his brothers and demanded that the brothers bring Jacob to Egypt. Only then did Jacob learn that Joseph was still alive.
* Jacob became the "father of a nation" through his 12 sons--he was clearly a very fertile man. (The Others and Mittelos Bioscience seem to be doing research connected with fertility. Alvar Hanso states on www.TheHansoFoundation.org that the foundation's goal is to "bring rebirth to a dying land and a dying people".
* Jacob is the great-great-grandfather of Aaron IS IT ANY COINCIDENCE THAT CHARLIES SON IS CALLED ARON>?(elder brother of Moses).
* Jacob is the first person in the Bible to refer to God as a shepherd.
* Jacob loved Rachel, daughter of Laban.
o He worked seven years to earn her hand in marriage, but Laban conned Jacob actually making him marry Rachel's sister Leah (whom he disguised) and forcing Jacob to work another seven years for the right of marrying Rachel.
o Rachel was apparently barren, but later amazingly gave birth to Joseph and Benjamin after failing to become pregnant for years.
o Benjamin had 11 brothers but only one full brother, Joseph, who also was Jacob's favorite.
o In Jewish history, the tribe of Benjamin's women and children were all killed, and the remaining members of the tribe could not longer proliferate. The historical solution they came up with was to kill the men from another sub-tribe and take their women and children. So far the Others have been taking women and children from flight 815.


That stuff highlighted is fwocking crazy! THIS PROGRAMME IS DRIVING ME MAD!!! ITS THE ONLY TV PROGRAMME I REALLY WATCH!

[Preme]

Are you being serious about the lesbo part?

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[El Gamo]

OM Gosh! I think you should take them down bro,before a Mod does! Good stuff tough!! CC!

[Preme]

OM Gosh! I think you should take them down bro,before a Mod does! Good stuff tough!! CC!

haha cc back bro

[El Gamo]

Wish we could leave them up What you think of this weeks ep man?

[Preme]

Wish we could leave them up What you think of this weeks ep man?

some things are kinda getting explained about certain people, not realy cliff hangers or questions tho the last few episodes...

My guess would be we go back to ben and his crew for episode 18 - you know what they are like, thay aint about to explain the 'new' chick already.

I guess the question is how.why did she crash tho!

[Wacko3205]

Just curious if anyone's mind was blown by the fact that everyone could be "dead" & in limbo on the island as the ruskie said to Desmond & the gang on the last episode?

Also...there's a gigantor rumor that Locke's daddy & Sawyer are one in the same from alternate realities.

I hope to hell that the producers & writers don't jump the shark when they close the show...one more season people & it's a wrap.

That's pretty much a solid time line that they are shooting for now...cryin gotdam shame.

[El Gamo]

Just curious if anyone's mind was blown by the fact that everyone could be "dead" & in limbo on the island as the ruskie said to Desmond & the gang on the last episode?

Also...there's a gigantor rumor that Locke's daddy & Sawyer are one in the same from alternate realities.

I hope to hell that the producers & writers don't jump the shark when they close the show...one more season people & it's a wrap.

That's pretty much a solid time line that they are shooting for now...cryin gotdam shame.

I NAILED the Sawyer part a while ago¬!! And I believe the limbo thing too. They allll died,and are now awaiting the decision to go to heaven or Hell,hence the lists of good people and bad people. Also,like I said,they mention Jacob("Him") and in the Bible,Jacob was trying to make a ladder to get to Heaven.



I DON'T WANT THIS TO END EVER!

[jbirdy]

i'm thinking that because that new girl on the island told hurley that the oceanic flight 815 had been found and there was no survivors. maybe the limbo theory might be the case. but im also thinking that maybe the government experiment theory could be the case. the government could have covered it up and claimed that they found the crashed plane. hmmmmmmm.
and was i the only one who was shouting at the screen when the rusian fella got zapped by the invisible electric field fence thing and no one actually checked if he was dead?
i'm loving this show, its the only thing i wont miss.

[Preme]

i'm thinking that because that new girl on the island told hurley that the oceanic flight 815 had been found and there was no survivors. maybe the limbo theory might be the case. but im also thinking that maybe the government experiment theory could be the case. the government could have covered it up and claimed that they found the crashed plane. hmmmmmmm.
and was i the only one who was shouting at the screen when the rusian fella got zapped by the invisible electric field fence thing and no one actually checked if he was dead?
i'm loving this show, its the only thing i wont miss.

na mate, you aint the only one who had major doubts mickel was dead

'The list' if you remember Ben said he was heading to their camp to bring people back, John was one of them, he told John when they were in the hatch, he said then the leader was a magnificent man and it wasn't him. Yeah they know everything about every one, this lives, girlfirends, basically if you paid a girl you never seen before in your life to do some kinky S*** with you, told her a false name, never told anyone again THEY KNOW!

I'm still not certain about the leader yet, Jacks dad may be it, Desmond's bitches also - but it think the fathers, suns, jacks/Clair's, Desi's bitch are all more of the higher council of this.

I'm still thinking that this Island is some sort of secret government type research centre - a place where PETA and the rest of the human/animal right nuts don't know about, a place where 'frownd upon' methods stateside would be opposed and banned. Was this the 'way' Jacks dad mentioned to let Claire's mum die? will we see Claire's mum saved and amongst them!?!

anyone else uncertain of weather patchy was dead? no one checked his F****** pulse! a lil bit of spit up was about all we seen? i mean F*** you could leg it through them sensors fast enough surly?
Lastly, has John been compremised? blowing up the Flame, throwing patchy to his death - he isn't stupid, he found the C4 (somehow?) so knew it was wired, that black chick wanted to die so he knew that them being alive was something to their advantage yet he throws him through there!

it's no suprise to see Jack 'enjoying' him self there, its either 1 of 2 things IMO - its a plan to act like it buy his time and work out what he needs to do, or they have let him in on whats what (maybe meet his dad if he is in on this?) and they really are 'the good guys'

On a side note, good news and bad news i guess, good news is it is still possible for that moaning lil manc twat charlie still may die, bad news is the prick hasn't yet! and yeah, Claire looked well fit in her goth gear!

I'm not buying into this 'everyone is dead and in limbo' thing either... There was a time when i thought it was possible and that it was the final step to get into heaven or hell - but to many things now make it not possible IMO.

Juliet came to the Island alive and out of free will, she isn't dead! Benn said he would let Her and jack go HOME, surly he can't let dead people go back to being alive? he said him self he was going to let them go but didn't want Jack to.

Benn has lived his entire life on the Island, we are meant to believe what, he died as a baby and grew up there, DEAD? why would a dead person have a tumor on their spine?

If 'The others' are meant to be the gate keeprs or the final test, then they would know surly, about everyone who was coming to the Island, they seem to know of noone untill they arive and give them selves away.

How could desmonds chick have found him, or get a rough idea of where he is if he was dead? i mean 'if you have enough money you can find anyone' but in limbo? thats stretching it?

[jbirdy]

am i the only one who thinks that jacks dad will crop up on the island somewhere later on? i just think he has been linked to too many of the islanders to not be significant other than in flashback mode. and didnt jack see him running around the island in season 1 and then find the coffin empty later on? maybe the island's healing thing perhaps played a part there? i dunno? but i think so far he's been linked to jack, sawyer, anna lucia, and claire. is the whole thing all just a big bunch of coincidences?
other links between the charicters i can remember that i'm gonna mention as a reminder are: kate had help from the woman who sawyer had just conned and eventually had a child with; kate's dad was also a big mucka colonel in the army or something that was conected to sayid when he was captured in the gulf; sayid was also linked to that hatch geezer who eventually somehow ended up in the hatch with desmond; desmond met jack briefly when he was training for the boat race that eventually led him to the island; cant think of any more at the moment but im sure there are some im forgeting and there will be more yet to come.

[Preme]

nop ur not jbirdy

btw

When juliet said she should have lates sample soon - that mean kates knocked up by sawyer? also the chick who 'crashed' it possible benn planted her there?

[Wacko3205]

Lost is off the hook tonight...Sawyer is face to face with...the other Sawyer...John Locke's daddyo from hell...Anthony Cooper...who goes by the alias of Tom Sawyer the conman.

[jbirdy]

fuck me that was an awesome episode. i so hope that next week locke takes his dads body and then ben considers him 'ready' and lets him in to the 'secrets of the island' very good episode tonight, and cant wait for next week.
my mate just asked me that if ben has lived in the island his whole life, then does that mean he was born on the island? if that is the case then either his mumsie was preggers before she got to the island, or people were once able to conceive and survive on the island. questions questions questions.