Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr

[Master]

The epilogue episode was very good. First time I have seen that type of episode, normally it is all pre-fight hype but this was very well made and really informative.

Crawford was calm throughout the event and calculated during the fight. Whereas Spence looked lethargic, probably from being weight drained and staying at the weight too long.

Crawford goading Charlo was interesting to see and shows how easy he found the bout. Terence must have been pleasantly surprised at how easy the fight was for him.

[ykdadamaja]

The epilogue episode was very good. First time I have seen that type of episode, normally it is all pre-fight hype but this was very well made and really informative.

Crawford was calm throughout the event and calculated during the fight. Whereas Spence looked lethargic, probably from being weight drained and staying at the weight too long.

Crawford goading Charlo was interesting to see and shows how easy he found the bout. Terence must have been pleasantly surprised at how easy the fight was for him.

I watched it too. Showtime is putting up HBO type content.

[Big J]

is that a worse excuse than deontay's costume?

I hate this line of commentary from Spence fans because he got his ass handed to him. Spence lost, fair and square... This is just embarrassing now.

That was funny
The best excuse I heard was
Spence lost because he didn't get a haircut
He never lost with the buzz cut

[ykdadamaja]

is that a worse excuse than deontay's costume?

I hate this line of commentary from Spence fans because he got his ass handed to him. Spence lost, fair and square... This is just embarrassing now.

That was funny
The best excuse I heard was
Spence lost because he didn't get a haircut
He never lost with the buzz cut

Spence fans are quite the spectacle of shame. I am shocked by how hard they are taking this. lolol... There are scores of videos on YouTube explaining everything from the car crash to Crawford having loaded gloves. Quite shameful stuff.

[Master]

Terence Crawford is well aware of the viral clip of Gervonta Davis vowing to put "Bud" to sleep if the two ever fight at 147 pounds.

To that, the newly-crowned welterweight champion of the world believes "Tank" should tread lightly.

"Well, he's just talking. He's got the confidence in himself that he believes he can do that, because he's been knocking all these fighters out that he's been in the ring with," Crawford began explaining on "The Breakfast Club" on Thursday.

"No knock to 'Tank,' but there's definitely levels and if he comes up to 147 and he's thinking he's just going to knock Terence Crawford out, he's got another thing coming."

Crawford did confirm that he'd be willing to stay at welterweight a little longer just to wait for Davis, who would be moving up from 135 pounds, as a "Bud" vs. "Tank" bout would be a "big money fight."

But he's not so sure that it would benefit him legacy-wise.

"And then what?" Crawford added, referring to if he'd beat Davis. "Everybody's gonna say he was too small. Nobody gonna give me credit. They're gonna say 'oh man, you beat up a little guy that fights at 135.'"

"What kind of recognition am I gonna get for beating up on 'Tank'?"

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...7236155&ei=165

[Spicoli]

This stuff with guys talking about hoping divisions like they were afterthoughts and normal is really getting silly. In 24 hours so many run with Bud going everywhere from Canelo to Tank . Tank has zero, zip, nata business chumming a 147 fight with a man who is looking completely North at 154. Fans need to stop being so friggin gullible and easy . The man would be as wide as he is tall ffs!

Lesson learned with Jermell who basically jumped at the first lotto for a fight he’ll likely lose, physically and title wise, and managed to delay if not entirely prevent a perfectly natural mega fight with now p4p fully unified Crawford coming to his house.

[TitoFan]

This stuff with guys talking about hoping divisions like they were afterthoughts and normal is really getting silly. In 24 hours so many run with Bud going everywhere from Canelo to Tank . Tank has zero, zip, nata business chumming a 147 fight with a man who is looking completely North at 154. Fans need to stop being so friggin gullible and easy . The man would be as wide as he is tall ffs!

Lesson learned with Jermell who basically jumped at the first lotto for a fight he’ll likely lose, physically and title wise, and managed to delay if not entirely prevent a perfectly natural mega fight with now p4p fully unified Crawford coming to his house.

Inoue vs Fury speculations at some catchweight can't be far off.

Some "fans" aren't satisfied with good, solid matchups between fighters within the same weight division... (or at least the traditionally accepted move up or down of one division).

That's too boring.

[TIC]

if terence is going to stay at welter, jaron or eimantas should be next. if he's going to fifty four he should be able to use his wbo belt to become mandatory to timmy

[TitoFan]

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08...rawford-again/

"Breaking: Errol Spence Activates Rematch Clause To Fight Terence Crawford Again"




Ok. So now that Spence has regained his senses, he has decided to activate the rematch clause, probably at 154. Makes sense, and comes as no surprise. Tough to ask Spence to stay with that beatdown as the one and only memory of him vs. Crawford. He probably feels he can at least be more competitive this time around. Although Bud would probably beat him decisively again... a rematch at 154 would make for a compelling fight. But there are more positives about this which have nothing to do with Spence. Forcing a rematch with Crawford will at least for now take Canelo off the radar. Crawford vs Canelo is just BAD for boxing. Not that Canelo and his team would give a shit about that... but it would be bad. Circus bad.

[TIC]

jaron ennis is now the full ibf welterweight champion. not sure if terence vacanted or was stripped. probably means terence won't be fighting at welter again

[TIC]

jaron ennis is now the full ibf welterweight champion. not sure if terence vacanted or was stripped. probably means terence won't be fighting at welter again

ibf stripped him

[Master]

Welterweight star Terence 'Bud' Crawford is no longer the division's undisputed champion after he was stripped of the IBF championship.

Crawford was stripped of the belt due to his inability to compete in a mandatory title defense against Jaron 'Boots' Ennis because of the rematch clause from his fight against Errol Spence Jr. It means Ennis is elevated from interim champion to full titleholder.

'Bud' dominated rival Spence on July 29 to claim all four welterweight belts but the contract allowed the loser to activate a rematch clause.
'On August 25, the IBF sent a letter to TBC Promotions directing Terence Crawford to begin negotiations with interim Champion Jaron Ennis,' an IBF spokesperson told BoxingScene.com.

'Negotiations were to be concluded by September 24.

'On September 22, the IBF received an email from Harrison Whitman representing Crawford indicating that the agreement for the Spence vs. Crawford bout contains an immediate rematch provision which Errol Spence has exercised.

'As such, Terrence Crawford is unable to engage in negotiations with Jaron Ennis.'

Sanctioning bodies do not generally consider rematch clauses to be a justifiable reason for avoiding mandatory defenses. The IBF's rule 3.B specially prohibits the practice.

'No contract for a Championship contest shall contain any clause or any provision, whatsoever, guaranteeing or in any way assuring or promising either contestant a return Championship contest where such clause or provision interferes with the mandatory defense of a title.

'Based on the forgoing, the IBF has withdrawn recognition of Terence Crawford as the IBF Welterweight world champion,' confirmed the IBF.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...1fd80263&ei=75

[Spicoli]

Another example of it honestly being pretty much a foregone conclusion, a matter of time knowing the rematch was contracted. It's why I'm always skeptical now when I hear "undisputed" as really it seems to be the last thing the alphabet boyz want. You just sit there waiting for the undisputed to splinter afterwards. It's enough to leave your head spinning. Crazy times right now. On one hand we have "champs" allowed to hibernate on their belt and use them as pillows for years all the while paying step aside fees to some mandatories. Or worse just having a sanctioning body green light and enable the indifference and ignoring a champ's obligations. Then you have Crawford who faced the top threat and vanquished him. But did so knowing Ennis sat as interim champ and mandatory was on deck with the ibf enforcing the rule. Spence rematch in hindsight is now a match very few actually want. Or 'need'. While when you take favoritism out of the equation (good luck today), a Boots vs Crawford showdown is exactly what fans want and should demand. An "undisputed" champion taking on ALL top contenders especially when they are literally a co-champion of sorts. Tough spot. It's definitely politics to a large degree but it's also not unpredictable. Also it's tarnishing Boots who is now receiving a title with the ease of sitting down to take ownership of a new car. Who wants that? Ala Haney, or even Tszyu though circumstances different as Charlo literally avoided his undisputed champions obligation. To "get paid". And how'd that work out. Feels like the strip needed its own thread . But fighters make decisions and move the pieces on the board accordingly. And also, and most importantly...fans overrate and fawn over shiny trinkets much too easily.

[TIC]

same thing will probably happen if tyson & oleksandr fight with a rematch clause

[Spicoli]

same thing will probably happen if tyson & oleksandr fight with a rematch clause

For Filip and Zhang? Ones already beaten the horse about not stepping aside but looked horrible. Zhang want's all the heat. Beginning to think that clauses need to come with clauses in some cases . Like maybe manner of victory etc. Much of this feels like a fighter's statement of intent.

They put Mario Barrios in the same interim boat at 147. It wouldn't shock me at this point.