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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Hagler-Antuofermo I.

    Just watched that fight again, Hagler won at least 10 rounds. Cossell's commentary was a disgrace in that fight. Hagler would land these vicious uppercuts and straight lefts to no comment, then Vito would land a wild, glancing right hand as he was lunging in and Cossell would scream that Hagler was hurt. Marvelous boxed beautifully and got the best of most of the slugging exchanges that took place in the later rounds.

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by raleights
    true, but it stopped ottke
    Being featherfisted did not stop Ottke creating a better legacy. What cost him, were them robberies; he already had a boring style of fighting, so that is going to annoy a lot of people, and then when he started getting hometown decisions in his favour, he pissed these people off even more.

    That is why Ottke does not get the credit his career deserves, but I am sure he does not care, because he got more money, by making title defences, with a title that should of belonged to other people.
    Why does his boxing career deserve any credit when he got loads of hometown, gift decision and he fought his hold career without going on the road for whole career. The guys signature wins are close decisions against Robin Reid, Charles Brewer, and Anthony Mundine with 10 fights under his belt.

    He actually gets more credit than he deserves - and lots more cash, too. He was a B-grade fighter, and it seems like he knew he was a B-grade fighter, because he never even tried to take on an A-grade fighter. From a business POV, he deserves credit, but from a boxing perspective, he was way overrated and he deserves every bit of the crap he takes.

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    floyd patterson-jimmy ellis. paterson should have been the first 3 time heavyweight champ

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    I am so sick of hearing that leonard vs hagler was a robbery it was a close fight and i think leornard put on a hell of a performance and thought he won but i love SRL so i am biased but if you like haggler you could say he won but your biased as well i think it was a close fight and not a robbery at all so i am sick of hearing about it but i happy though cause it goes down as a win for leornard so i am not bitter

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140
    I am so sick of hearing that leonard vs hagler was a robbery it was a close fight and i think leornard put on a hell of a performance and thought he won but i love SRL so i am biased but if you like haggler you could say he won but your biased as well i think it was a close fight and not a robbery at all so i am sick of hearing about it but i happy though cause it goes down as a win for leornard so i am not bitter
    You are right, it was a close fight. Hagler should have won by a round or two, but the judges bought Leonards smoke and mirrors and Hagler fought a stupid fight. If Hagler was less stubourn and was a little more active, the fight would have been his. I disagree with the decision, but I don't think the JUDGES "stole it" from Hagler, and in fact, complaining about Hagler getting robbed by judges is like complaining that something got stolen out of your car when you didn't lock it.

    As far as the scoring goes, it wasn't robbery, not at all. But in a way, Leonard did steal the fight. Here's the thing that creases me about that fight and makes it seem a little like robbery to me. Hear me out. Leonard never intended to really "Win" the decisively. His whole gameplan was to steal rounds. He admits this this. If you listen to him, he is proud of it. His whole gameplan was to steal the fight. He could never BEAT Hagler in the real sense of the word...land more effect blows than he took, but he could land a lot of shoeshine and slaps. There has never been a fighter alive who could play to the judges as well as SRL and probably only Ali could execute use his brains as well in the ring.

    If you are a Leonard fan, you say, fine, that's good enough, he impressed the judges and made it close enough to give himself a chance to win a slim decision. If you are Hagler fan, even you can admit, like me, that it was very close on points, you think SLR performance was all style and no substance.

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    has to be jones in the olympics

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Well SeanE nice reply and cc for a good answer it seems like you are reasonable when it comes to your judgemeant

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    What is the worst result you have ever seen, and then had the most impact on the career of the losing fighter?

    De La Hoya v Felix Sturm - Sturm had to wait 2 years before getting another title shot

    Ali v Norton 3 - Norton is never remembered in the same light of Frazier, Foreman and Ali, but another win over Ali could have seen him up there

    Sven Ottke v Mads Larson - Larson was never the same fighter and took years out of the sport because of the decision

    Joel Casamayor v Jose Santa Cruz - Casamayor has gone on to beat Katsidis and is lining up a fight with Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz while Santa Cruz is left to re build his career

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmbtandy View Post
    What is the worst result you have ever seen, and then had the most impact on the career of the losing fighter?

    De La Hoya v Felix Sturm - Sturm had to wait 2 years before getting another title shot

    Ali v Norton 3 - Norton is never remembered in the same light of Frazier, Foreman and Ali, but another win over Ali could have seen him up there

    Sven Ottke v Mads Larson - Larson was never the same fighter and took years out of the sport because of the decision

    Joel Casamayor v Jose Santa Cruz - Casamayor has gone on to beat Katsidis and is lining up a fight with Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz while Santa Cruz is left to re build his career
    Here's 16 pgs. of that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jmbtandy View Post
    What is the worst result you have ever seen, and then had the most impact on the career of the losing fighter?

    De La Hoya v Felix Sturm - Sturm had to wait 2 years before getting another title shot

    Ali v Norton 3 - Norton is never remembered in the same light of Frazier, Foreman and Ali, but another win over Ali could have seen him up there

    Sven Ottke v Mads Larson - Larson was never the same fighter and took years out of the sport because of the decision

    Joel Casamayor v Jose Santa Cruz - Casamayor has gone on to beat Katsidis and is lining up a fight with Nate Campbell or Juan Diaz while Santa Cruz is left to re build his career
    Here's 16 pgs. of that...
    Ouch....

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bookkeeper View Post
    I am sure that there will be many different opinions on this subject but I have to go with Pernell Whitaker Vs Julio Ceasar Chavez even though I am sure the Oscar fans will say the Tito fight.

    Genaro Rios getting robbed agaoinst Wilferdo Vasquez. Vasquez lost every round but still got the decision.

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    I remember Britkid talking about a fight one time in Germany where the German fighter was losing to the foreign guy but the judges scored like 11 even rounds and then the final round to the home fighter to win the fight.

    Anybody know what fight he was talking about?

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    The Kid Diamond-Huerta fight was pretty much an in-your-face robbery.

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    Default Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I remember Britkid talking about a fight one time in Germany where the German fighter was losing to the foreign guy but the judges scored like 11 even rounds and then the final round to the home fighter to win the fight.

    Anybody know what fight he was talking about?
    Man...Never had the pleasure.That guy was a phenom ??What ever happened to him?Britkid

    That fight sounds familiar,seems like some one recently had mentioned that one

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