Could Floyd stand up to this???

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[quote=DaxxKahn ]

Because Floyd wouldn't Zab is a different league than Oscar in terms of speed, and is the closest thing to Floyd in boxing in terms of speed. I think Floyd could get in and out before Oscar could respond.

the speed becomes null and void if the guy you are fighting just bullies and smothers you...and you have nothing to hurt him with to keep him from doing
it...DLH gets PBF in the corner or on the ropes it's over
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Did Oscar bully and smother Pernell Whitaker? No. He was forced to box him. He'll be forced to box Mayweather, and he'll lose trying.

Yeah Yeah Yeah....He was supposed to lose to Whitaker too...and Chavez...And be KO'd by Vargas...And Be destroyed by Mayorga....Hell DLH hasn't lost to a fighter not bound for the HOF...Trinidad...HOF bound...Mosley HOF bound...Hopkins HOF bound...

Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but Oscar has only been an underdog once in his entire career, and that was to Hopkins. Suppose to lose to Whitaker? Chavez? Mosley? Mayorga? Please don't make me laugh.

Hmmm....Let me see I can show you no less than a hundred different post on this site alone that have people claiming DLH was going to be KO'd and destroyed... They said Chavez the mexican Legend would hand him a beating....They said Pernell would give him a boxing lesson...Hell I remember Larry Merchant saying before DLH fight with Ruelas that it was going to be the test to tell us if DLH was legit.....People thought Vargas would be too much the agressor for DLH to handle....So don't make me laugh...

DaxxKahn, smash is right, you really don't have much of a leg to stand on in this argument. Oscar has been the odds on favorite in all but one of his pro fights. Oddsmakers is what you gauge predictions on, not fans on a message board. That's why you go with Las Vegas odds. Because people make TRUE predictions with their wallets, not their words.

[Taeth]

[quote=DaxxKahn ]

Because Floyd wouldn't Zab is a different league than Oscar in terms of speed, and is the closest thing to Floyd in boxing in terms of speed. I think Floyd could get in and out before Oscar could respond.

the speed becomes null and void if the guy you are fighting just bullies and smothers you...and you have nothing to hurt him with to keep him from doing
it...DLH gets PBF in the corner or on the ropes it's over
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Did Oscar bully and smother Pernell Whitaker? No. He was forced to box him. He'll be forced to box Mayweather, and he'll lose trying.

Yeah Yeah Yeah....He was supposed to lose to Whitaker too...and Chavez...And be KO'd by Vargas...And Be destroyed by Mayorga....Hell DLH hasn't lost to a fighter not bound for the HOF...Trinidad...HOF bound...Mosley HOF bound...Hopkins HOF bound...

Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but Oscar has only been an underdog once in his entire career, and that was to Hopkins. Suppose to lose to Whitaker? Chavez? Mosley? Mayorga? Please don't make me laugh.

Hmmm....Let me see I can show you no less than a hundred different post on this site alone that have people claiming DLH was going to be KO'd and destroyed... They said Chavez the mexican Legend would hand him a beating....They said Pernell would give him a boxing lesson...Hell I remember Larry Merchant saying before DLH fight with Ruelas that it was going to be the test to tell us if DLH was legit.....People thought Vargas would be too much the agressor for DLH to handle....So don't make me laugh...

Pernell Whitaker did give Oscar a boxing lesson. Larry Merchant knows nothing. Chavez was old. Some people thought Vargas would be too much for DLH to handle, but no the majority, and he still had a very tough fight against Vargas.

[The_One77]

If Oscar can bully Floyd around like Castillo, with his superiour size and strenght he will win...
I think people may be overestimating Floyd a little bit since he's undefeated but there is always someone around the corner to beat you, Oscar has the handspeed and size to bully Floyd....
And tbh I don't think Floyd can really hit hard at that weight, he couldn't knock out Judah so he won't knock out Oscar.

[amat]

Now...I'll give Oscar his due and then some for his sharpness last night but it was Mayorga. It's a lot easier to hit someone who fights from the same angles and who punches wide then it is from someone as slick as Floyd. Again, not taking anything away from Oscar, but Floyd has undeniably faster hands then Oscar and it's not like he's feather-fisted. Floyd knows how to stand his ground and withstand flurries like that while getting off his own. I don't know, I would have to watch last night's fight again in a different environment but I don't think Mayorga can be considered a measuring stick for matching up Oscar and Floyd.

And just a sidenote, Tony Margarito must be feeling like Sam Langford right now

[BrooklyniteQueen]

Ok the fight is over DLH won ( rather easily )...The talk has already started about DLH VS PBF.......At 147 Zab Judah had Floyd feeling the shots...at times in the first few rds you could see Floyd wimce from the shots Zab gave him....Could PBF stand up to an all out assult by DLH...Without the power to keep Oscar off him what will Floyd do when Oscar is on the attack
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTfLkQa5K...de%20la%20hoya

I don't see Floyd standing toe to toe with this kind of assult Dlh laid out in the end of this fight...

Never use this fight as a parometer for how Oscar would perform against PBF. PBF is an entirely different fighter with faster hands and more accurate fists. That would be a fight Oscar would struggle in and look his age. The style of Mayorga his wide swinging and no defense and no keeping his hands up helped ODLH look spectacular. Against the style of Mayorga had Oscar not looked spectacular then it would have been obvious he has nothing left. Mayorga was tailor made for Oscar, Mayweather is not. All the questions are still unanswered, what ODLH did against Mayorga didn't show anything we didn't already know. So I'm not high on ODLH enough to say he would beat Mayweather.

[luvfightgame]

Ok the fight is over DLH won ( rather easily )...The talk has already started about DLH VS PBF.......At 147 Zab Judah had Floyd feeling the shots...at times in the first few rds you could see Floyd wimce from the shots Zab gave him....Could PBF stand up to an all out assult by DLH...Without the power to keep Oscar off him what will Floyd do when Oscar is on the attack
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTfLkQa5K...de%20la%20hoya

I don't see Floyd standing toe to toe with this kind of assult Dlh laid out in the end of this fight...

Never use this fight as a parometer for how Oscar would perform against PBF. PBF is an entirely different fighter with faster hands and more accurate fists. That would be a fight Oscar would struggle in and look his age. The style of Mayorga his wide swinging and no defense and no keeping his hands up helped ODLH look spectacular. Against the style of Mayorga had Oscar not looked spectacular then it would have been obvious he has nothing left. Mayorga was tailor made for Oscar, Mayweather is not. All the questions are still unanswered, what ODLH did against Mayorga didn't show anything we didn't already know. So I'm not high on ODLH enough to say he would beat Mayweather.

Oscar is to big and strong for Mayweather. If he is the aggressor he will brake down PBF. It is similiar to ODH fighting Mosley except Mosley is a lot stronger and hits harder. Floyd will lose in my opinion. Especially since ODH is taking roids now.

[bigragu]

Because Floyd wouldn't Zab is a different league than Oscar in terms of speed, and is the closest thing to Floyd in boxing in terms of speed. I think Floyd could get in and out before Oscar could respond.

Floyd is going to lose speed and movement at 154....I don't think he could be THE PBF at 154 ..he should stay at 140 or 147 and retire undefeated after about 8 more fights.......that's the problem...they don't know whats best for them physically only financially...PBF will lose if he steps up to fight ODLH....You cannot put on 15+ pounds in this short of time and be as good/fast as you were...you have to give up something...Floyd is going to lose the one thing that separates him from everyone and that is his speed....plus he is not a natural at 154.....154 guys are ALOT bigger than the 140-147lb guys.....I predict a KO inside of 6 rds...ODLH by KO that is...

[Kev]

Because Floyd wouldn't Zab is a different league than Oscar in terms of speed, and is the closest thing to Floyd in boxing in terms of speed. I think Floyd could get in and out before Oscar could respond.

the speed becomes null and void if the guy you are fighting just bullies and smothers you...and you have nothing to hurt him with to keep him from doing
it...DLH gets PBF in the corner or on the ropes it's over
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Did Oscar bully and smother Pernell Whitaker? No. He was forced to box him. He'll be forced to box Mayweather, and he'll lose trying.

Yeah Yeah Yeah....He was supposed to lose to Whitaker too...and Chavez...And be KO'd by Vargas...And Be destroyed by Mayorga....Hell DLH hasn't lost to a fighter not bound for the HOF...Trinidad...HOF bound...Mosley HOF bound...Hopkins HOF bound...

Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but Oscar has only been an underdog once in his entire career, and that was to Hopkins. Suppose to lose to Whitaker? Chavez? Mosley? Mayorga? Please don't make me laugh.

Hmmm....Let me see I can show you no less than a hundred different post on this site alone that have people claiming DLH was going to be KO'd and destroyed... They said Chavez the mexican Legend would hand him a beating....They said Pernell would give him a boxing lesson...Hell I remember Larry Merchant saying before DLH fight with Ruelas that it was going to be the test to tell us if DLH was legit.....People thought Vargas would be too much the agressor for DLH to handle....So don't make me laugh...

Pernell Whitaker did give Oscar a boxing lesson. Larry Merchant knows nothing. Chavez was old. Some people thought Vargas would be too much for DLH to handle, but no the majority, and he still had a very tough fight against Vargas.

Just to add to the argument, Ike Quartey also beat DLH in a very close fight. Amazingly Oscar not only got the decision but on 2 of the judges scorecards he would have won even if he hadn't have put Quartey down in the final round. Actually even if Quartey had won the last round Oscar would have still got the decsion according to the judges.

Personally I thought that was bullshat!

[El Kabong]

Floyd is too quick to suffer Mayorga's fate but is his chin as good as Shane's?

This all has me a bit worried remember Trinidad beat down Mayorga and then got a lesson from Wright. Will Oscar have paid enough attention to that to not make that mistake

[luvfightgame]

Floyd is too quick to suffer Mayorga's fate but is his chin as good as Shane's?

This all has me a bit worried remember Trinidad beat down Mayorga and then got a lesson from Wright. Will Oscar have paid enough attention to that to not make that mistake

Winky isn't smaller than Trinidad though. The skill may be there, but size and strength isn't with PBF. He is moving up to high and ODH will beat him. Same reason Winky beat Shane, and Forrest beat Shane. They were just alot bigger and stronger. Also ODH has alot more boxing ability than Tito. Tito's is and always has been a slugger that can box a little. ODH is a boxer that can punch a little.

No takers on my comment that ODH is taking steroids

[ACEA]

Can oscar keep up with Floyd especially if it goes 12 rounds which is probibly. i think Oscar would have to work his a** of to land a shot through PBF defense and work his a** of chasing him round the ring and we on top of all that Floyds hands are faster so he could in theory land 2-3 shot while Oscar lands one if hes lucky.

[TheBESTP4P]

u cant compare oscars performance on mayorga to what will happen against pbf, cause pbf has the best defense in the game and mayorgas hands were low threw out the whole fight last night. he didnt cover up once with his hands wtf was up with that??

[ACEA]

I know that Mayorga cant be compared to PBF i was just getting at Oscar cant be favoured over PBF as in the Mayorga fight it wasn't really energy draining and that a lot of rust will still remain on ODLH after the 18 month layoff. i think against PBF the cracks will show and De la hoya will get his a** handed to him.

[luvfightgame]

Can oscar keep up with Floyd especially if it goes 12 rounds which is probibly. i think Oscar would have to work his a** of to land a shot through PBF defense and work his a** of chasing him round the ring and we on top of all that Floyds hands are faster so he could in theory land 2-3 shot while Oscar lands one if hes lucky.

Come on PBF is not THAT fast. 2-3 for every punch ODH throws? PBF is smaller and faster and has great defense. But he is SMALLER, and much less power. He won't be able to hurt ODH and ODH definitely CAN hurt him. It is a physical mismatch for PBF.

[ACEA]

for Oscar to hurt him hes got to catch him and i seriously doubt unless its in the early rounds that he can KO Floyd. He will have to work his a** of all the time and will ware out as the rounds go on. Mayweather may not have the power but he can still outwork DLH and get a UD. his defense is tiptop so i doubt Oscar will be able to drop him and i can see Floyd working the body an awful lot so in the latter part Oscars shots wont have as much pop on them. i just cant see how after an 18 month layoff he can beat the no 1 P4P guy especial after taking an easy fight like Mayorga who he didnt have to do a lot to hit.