I'm getting so fucking sick of Tony Margarito.

[Unknowndonor]

Tony is a hard-ass, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

[Unknowndonor]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

[bigragu]

Hey, TONY-ZAB ain't a bad one

If he were to beat ZAB then give him a shot...until then Tuff SH*T....you get the big money title fights by earning them or having Don King as your promoter/manager/leach/career killer/thief...

[amat]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

[JonesJrMayweather]

just because herns was 6'2 doesn't mean he should have been 175....and margarito walks around at about 170....hearns was skinny and trimmed...

and winky had been at 154 his whole career and doesn't walk around at 180 either....

[Unknowndonor]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

I like Tony, but it's easy to beat up on little guys. All fighters who do that lose some respect, but as they get older, they move up and challenge for the belts, just like Winky, Hearns, Oscar and others. If Tony can't beat other guys more closer to his weight, then he really isn't that good, and is only a bully. Isn't that how you look at it? I'm just saying, if he can't get fights, move up. Don't be a puss and cry about it. None of the other fighters we have mentioned did that.

[amat]

just because herns was 6'2 doesn't mean he should have been 175....and margarito walks around at about 170....hearns was skinny and trimmed...

and winky had been at 154 his whole career and doesn't walk around at 180 either....

Does that mean Winky wasn't weight drained his whole career? Actually he wasn't but he definitely was for the last few years. I think you guy are nitpicking saying you don't like Tony because he fights at welter. If he can make the weight then he can fight there and shouldn't be questioned. That's all there is to it really.

[amat]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

I like Tony, but it's easy to beat up on little guys. All fighters who do that lose some respect, but as they get older, they move up and challenge for the belts, just like Winky, Hearns, Oscar and others. If Tony can't beat other guys more closer to his weight, then he really isn't that good, and is only a bully. Isn't that how you look at it? I'm just saying, if he can't get fights, move up. Don't be a puss and cry about it. None of the other fighters we have mentioned did that.

But he feels best at welterweight. He's done more then enough to get a shot at 147, why move up and start over?

[Unknowndonor]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

I like Tony, but it's easy to beat up on little guys. All fighters who do that lose some respect, but as they get older, they move up and challenge for the belts, just like Winky, Hearns, Oscar and others. If Tony can't beat other guys more closer to his weight, then he really isn't that good, and is only a bully. Isn't that how you look at it? I'm just saying, if he can't get fights, move up. Don't be a puss and cry about it. None of the other fighters we have mentioned did that.

But he feels best at welterweight. He's done more then enough to get a shot at 147, why move up and start over?

Because if and when he gets a shot at Floyd, Tony will lose a UD. Floyd is smarter than what people think. He will dance his way around Tony, landing just enough to win. Then everyone will say Floyd didn't fight him, or Tony was overrated, either way Tony loses and is discarded. He don't get a shot now, and after a loss, every fighter that is truly scared would say he has five losses, and he just lost. I just think it's bad for Tony, unless he can get Zab, Oscar, or Spinks. Someone he has a better chance against to raise his value. Moving up, he would get a title shot for sure. Especially if Vargas beats Mosely. That would be a good match-up for Tony, and he would get paid.

[amat]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

I like Tony, but it's easy to beat up on little guys. All fighters who do that lose some respect, but as they get older, they move up and challenge for the belts, just like Winky, Hearns, Oscar and others. If Tony can't beat other guys more closer to his weight, then he really isn't that good, and is only a bully. Isn't that how you look at it? I'm just saying, if he can't get fights, move up. Don't be a puss and cry about it. None of the other fighters we have mentioned did that.

But he feels best at welterweight. He's done more then enough to get a shot at 147, why move up and start over?

Because if and when he gets a shot at Floyd, Tony will lose a UD. Floyd is smarter than what people think. He will dance his way around Tony, landing just enough to win. Then everyone will say Floyd didn't fight him, or Tony was overrated, either way Tony loses and is discarded. He don't get a shot now, and after a loss, every fighter that is truly scared would say he has five losses, and he just lost. I just think it's bad for Tony, unless he can get Zab, Oscar, or Spinks. Someone he has a better chance against to raise his value. Moving up, he would get a title shot for sure. Especially if Vargas beats Mosely. That would be a good match-up for Tony, and he would get paid.

Personally, I would pick Mayweather and it has the potential to be lopsided but that doesn't mean Margarito didn't earn it.

[Unknowndonor]

Tony is a hard-a**, but hasn't really done alot. Sure he has destroyed alot of underclassmen. So did Corrales until he fought Floyd. The difference is, Corrales has lost to the best, and still continues to fight the best and win some. Tony does not. You can say he is being avoided. Well, Arum is your promoter, use him. If he can't get you a fight, then look at the belts, fight some of the top contenders, and get yourself ranked as a mandatory. Then, if the fighter avoids you, he gets stripped, and you fight an eliminator for the belt. Boom, you added yourself another bvelt. If you still can't get the fights, climb the list for another belt. Or, Tony could try what other class A fighters do, and move up to make a big fight. I mean, he should be fighting at 154 to 160 anyway.

he can't fight any higher he was getting a beating by santos at 154 and promptly moved back down to call out the smaller 135pounders..

Exactly. I would like Tony better if he actually banged with the guys his size.

So you basically hate 80% of all boxers? Most boxers walk around 2 or 3 weight classes then that of the one they fight at. Do you dislike Winky for beating up on 154 lbers? Do you dislike Hearns for being a 6'2 welterweight? Seriously, he makes the weight so there should be no problem.

I like Tony, but it's easy to beat up on little guys. All fighters who do that lose some respect, but as they get older, they move up and challenge for the belts, just like Winky, Hearns, Oscar and others. If Tony can't beat other guys more closer to his weight, then he really isn't that good, and is only a bully. Isn't that how you look at it? I'm just saying, if he can't get fights, move up. Don't be a puss and cry about it. None of the other fighters we have mentioned did that.

But he feels best at welterweight. He's done more then enough to get a shot at 147, why move up and start over?

Because if and when he gets a shot at Floyd, Tony will lose a UD. Floyd is smarter than what people think. He will dance his way around Tony, landing just enough to win. Then everyone will say Floyd didn't fight him, or Tony was overrated, either way Tony loses and is discarded. He don't get a shot now, and after a loss, every fighter that is truly scared would say he has five losses, and he just lost. I just think it's bad for Tony, unless he can get Zab, Oscar, or Spinks. Someone he has a better chance against to raise his value. Moving up, he would get a title shot for sure. Especially if Vargas beats Mosely. That would be a good match-up for Tony, and he would get paid.

Personally, I would pick Mayweather and it has the potential to be lopsided but that doesn't mean Margarito didn't earn it.

Even though he hasn't beat any top five welters, he has earned it because all of the other ones have recent losses. He has a belt. And he would beat Baldomir for sure. Do you rank him ahead of Oscar at 147? Without the money. Oscar hasn't even fought at 147 in years. I do, but alot of people wouldn't. Would you rank him ahead of Hatton if Hatton beats Collazo? Hatton is undefeated, and would have a legit belt. I think Floyd should have beat him already, but it's about exposure, and money, and Tony doesn't have enough of either. Arum did make a good effort, but even Tony knows 8 mil is nothing compared to Oscar money.

[gyrokai]

"Whaaaa!"

"Antonio Margarito wants to fight my favorite fighter!!!"

"And he's making all these other boxing fans around me
question my favorite fighter's opposition for the past 4 years!!!"

[gyrokai]

"And Margaritto has been Ring Magazine #1 for over a year and still, noone in the top 10 will face him. How is he not going to be frustrated?" SecondRoundKO

That just about sums it up in a nutshell.

Honestly, why are Pretty Boy fans fed up with Margarito? This is BOXING more than BUSINESS, this is the FIGHT GAME not the stock market.

Mayweather wanst to be a businessman, when he can make more money being a fighter. And most of his fans can defend the businessman characteristic, but NOT ME, I'm a fight fan, not a business FAN.

So hail Mayweather for his Business decisions, because recently I won't hail him for his Fight Decisions.

[Unknowndonor]

"And Margaritto has been Ring Magazine #1 for over a year and still, noone in the top 10 will face him. How is he not going to be frustrated?" SecondRoundKO

That just about sums it up in a nutshell.

Honestly, why are Pretty Boy fans fed up with Margarito? This is BOXING more than BUSINESS, this is the FIGHT GAME not the stock market.

Mayweather wanst to be a businessman, when he can make more money being a fighter. And most of his fans can defend the businessman characteristic, but NOT ME, I'm a fight fan, not a business FAN.

So hail Mayweather for his Business decisions, because recently I won't hail him for his Fight Decisions.

We all know he should have fought Tony, but when he does, and beats him, what will you say then? Or, what if Tony gets beat by Oscar?