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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
    A prime Holmes would've outboxed Tyson for 12 rds like he was doing at the start of that 4th rd. He was bouncing on his feet and hitting Mike with jabs, even the crowd was getting into it. But at his age for that fight, he tired quickly.

    But a prime Holmes beats Tyson easily.
    Beats Tyson Easily!!!!Seriously doubting that one

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    How many times did you see Holmes fight? He wasnt stupid like most of Mike's early opponents, standing there to be KO'd. Holmes had a great jab and he stood 6'2".

    Beats Tyson easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
    How many times did you see Holmes fight? He wasnt stupid like most of Mike's early opponents, standing there to be KO'd. Holmes  had a great jab and he stood 6'2".

    Beats Tyson easily.
    Obviously you havent seen many Tyson Fights!!!!!Were not talking about the Tyson who lost to Williams,Lewis and McBride... 6'2 is perfect for Mike, his head movement and lateral movement was phenomenal he wouls slip and negate the jab and rip those signature hooks to the body then to the head..

    Until he went corrupt and Jaded NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in heavyweight boxing history had the combonation of blinding handspeed and explosive power he possesed and you know what I mean!!!! you can see as soon as Don King leached on and influenced his career and he parted ways with rooney, atlas he went from Beautiful Welterweight style combo's to no head movement always trying to land the big one....Holmes would never have run into such a Buzz saw as A Young Mike Tyson

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Dude, I'm 32. I've seen almost all of Holmes' prime career fights and I saw all of Tyson's. We garee that Mike went downhhill when he left Rooney, no doubt. But Holmes is better than anyone Moike has ever faced, includiing prime Evander and Lennox. He would outbox and frustrate Tyson, and beat him, easily.

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Holmes ain't the greatest, Ali ain't the greatest.

    1. Louis
    2. Marciano

    Weak era's my ass, they fought whoever were out there and beat them. And I don't think I'd be calling Walcott and Charles nobodies.

    Foreman would have destroyed Holmes

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefeated
    he says he was--and he has every right to think so--48-0. says it all. he beat cooney,shavers and norton--3 big names--and the biggest name ali--however a 39 yr old, prescription drug, early stage of parkinsons--it still took larry --11 rounds to put him away--

    larry holmes was 1 of the greatest , but how would he far against the greats

    vs prime tyson--tyson ko 10
    vs ali--ali UD
    vs foreman--could go either way
    vs frazier--frazier ko 12
    vs marciano--holmes tko 11---rocky's the man--but holmes would be 2 much (they would prob stop the fights on cuts)
    vs tunney---holmes ud 12
    vs dempsey--holmes ko 12
    vs louis--holmes ud 12
    vs patterson--holmes ko9

    just an opinion-

    so larry u r one of the greatest---just not the greatest
    that record is an abberition......Don King was padding that record with bums and washed up fighters in an attempt to match and pass Marciano's record......so then King sets up the fight that would give Holmes a 49-0 record against a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT in Michael Spinks who hadn't fought in a year......didn't happen....couldn't get the record even with hand picked opponents.......not the greatest but maybe in the Top 10-15.......
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    Yeah talk about a WEAK era...I mean Renoldo Snipes?

    Tyson would have whipped him in Holmes' prime
    Foreman would have whipped him
    Norton would have beat him in a rematch

    Holmes was one of those guys who had no class...drop kicking Trevor Berbick...great wonderful, brings lots of fans out

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Young Holmes beats Tyson.

    Say what you will, but reality is Tyson NEVER beat a great or even very good HW.

    Everytime he fought someone in the class of Holmes he got his @$$ whooped.






    Oh, and Foreman would beat all their @$$es.

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
    Dude, I'm 32. I've seen almost all of Holmes' prime career fights and I saw all of Tyson's. We garee that Mike went downhhill when he left Rooney, no doubt. But Holmes is better than anyone Moike has ever faced, includiing prime Evander and Lennox. He would outbox and frustrate Tyson, and beat him, easily.
    Yeah well Holmes never fought anyone like Mike in his Prime!!! dude Holmes was a big fish swimming in a small pond period!!!! Larry was champ of a Heavyweight division that was just about as pathetic as it is today!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare
    Dude, I'm 32. I've seen almost all of Holmes' prime career fights and I saw all of Tyson's. We garee that Mike went downhhill when he left Rooney, no doubt. But Holmes is better than anyone Moike has ever faced, includiing prime Evander and Lennox. He would outbox and frustrate Tyson, and beat him, easily.
    I hate Lennox and I woulsd have to say he would Beat Larry and Dont go there with Evander either!!!!Evander had to much toughness and way to much Heart for Larry Oh and the boy could box 2!!! I would say even Bowe would have disposed of Larry

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    He was one of the greatest, but everyone agrees that Ali in his prime is the greatest of all time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugepang
    He was one of the greatest, but everyone agrees that Ali in his prime is the greatest of all time!
    Nope, not everyone...Ali is 3rd.

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    Default Re: larry holmes---was he the greatest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by eugepang
    He was one of the greatest, but everyone agrees that Ali in his prime is the greatest of all time!
    Nope, not everyone...Ali is 3rd.
    Who was better?

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    It's weird coz I would normally put Holmes behind Ali and Louis in 3rd, but then again I think Tyson would've stopped him in their primes!! Remember the round where Witherspoon had holmes all over the place, well imagine if that was Tyson, Holmes would not've made the bell!!


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    ..... but certainly not anyone fighting at the moment.




























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