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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Leonard I dont think and explanation is neccessary. his carrers speaks for itself.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    When did Leonard fight Davey Moore? After DURAN DESTROYED HIM?!
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    When did Leonard fight Davey Moore? After DURAN DESTROYED HIM?!
    whats ur point
    "Very few people really understand what it means to be a fighter. I hate it when I hear someone say, 'That fighter doesn't have guts. I hate that, I don't care if you're a world champion six times over or a four-round fighter, to step inside that ring, you have to have guts" Oscar De La Hoya

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk
    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    When did Leonard fight Davey Moore? After DURAN DESTROYED HIM?!
    whats ur point
    Duran was a greater fighter. He lost the 2nd and boring 3rd fight. But won the one that counted, the one that was actually a FIGHT. He also did better against Hagler than both Hearns and Leonard. Don't spout nonsense about SRL beatin Hagler. He ran and got a gift decision. But he and Duran would both stop PBF.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Duran lost the fight that counted. And that was the rematch And you say Duran did better against Hagler then Leonard.

    Who did better against Hearns?

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    SRL was bigger and stronger than Mayweather but Floyd is a better techinical fighter...
    imo a prime Duran would beat Floyd at WW, he would of crowded him like Castillo did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr


    Who did better against Hearns?
    yeah, totally outgunned
    that right hand bounced off Duran's chin so hard, it looked like it literally broke his jaw
    Poor Duran, he looked like 50 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Duran lost the fight that counted. And that was the rematch And you say Duran did better against Hagler then Leonard.

    Who did better against Hearns?
    Starr I never knew you were such a huge SRL fan. I'm a lil disapointed. Yeah, like all rivals each beat fighters the other could not and so on. The Rematch was not the one that counted the most IMO, that was the first one. And Duran was not beaten up or hurt in the rematch, far from it, he was just frustrated and embarassed. He still shouldn't of quit like that, but I feel he redeemed himself in later fights, see the Moore and Barkley wins.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    6 championships in 6 weight classes? Stupid comments like that is why he's overrated. You actually count the Hagler so-called victory? Or the two titles he gained by beating that paper champion Donny Lalaonde? Since when is beating Lalonde good enough for two titles? Unless they were manufactured titles.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    6 championships in 6 weight classes? Stupid comments like that is why he's overrated. You actually count the Hagler so-called victory? Or the two titles he gained by beating that paper champion Donny Lalaonde? Since when is beating Lalonde good enough for two titles? Unless they were manufactured titles.
    CC. He lost the Hagler fight, plain and simple.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quoteon’t look for Floyd to go up in weight to challenge Jermain Taylor for the middleweight title, or to demand a match with the light heavyweight champion, Antonio Tarver. Those feats are reserved for ultra-talented legendary fighters, guys like Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Sugar Ray Robinson, Archie Moore, Tommy Hearns and Sugar Ray Leonard.


    WTF is this moron taling about, lil floyd challenging a light heavy weight champion?, just for his sheer stupidity he deserves to be shot.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    6 championships in 6 weight classes? Stupid comments like that is why he's overrated. You actually count the Hagler so-called victory? Or the two titles he gained by beating that paper champion Donny Lalaonde? Since when is beating Lalonde good enough for two titles? Unless they were manufactured titles.
    did u just start watching boxing, coz the paper champion thing is just soo 90s. with so many alphabet titles, almost everyone is a paper champion unless you are the undisputed champion. Heck 2 of floyds belts came from beating paper champions so why do we acknowledge him as a 3 weight champion. he beat gatti for the WBC title when Ricky hatton was the recognized champion and how he became the IBF welterweight champion is the most bizzare championship claim ever in history of boxing. so with all this paper champion talk half the fighters today shouldn't even be acknowledged as champions and legends like roy jones would not have the title heavyweight champion of the world on their resume. when you fight in weight classes above your natural ones, you are giving away many of your advantages (such as speed, power, reach and size) and what carries you is your skill and will coz the bigger guyz can take your punch better and hit a lot harder, therefore any alright fighter has a good chance to beat you thats is why not every fighter can jump weight class. Morales who is one ofmy favorite fighter couldn't cope with it and got wiped out by Raheem, ppl will say that raheem's style was the factor yes it was but morales fought slick boxers b4 and dominated them. Leonard had talent and fought and beat the best of his era. he never got dominated in his prime, the first duran fight was also very close. I like hagler arguably the best middleweight ever but he never left his domain (middleweight division). sugar ray at least moved up for bigger challenges. People always say there is no way that hagler lost that fight, I believe HAgler didn't dominate to warrant that comment. He gave away the early rounds to leonard, and some of the later rounds were close the fight could have gone either way. Also people forget that Hagler was the #1 P4P fighter in the world at that time and leonard was coming with a detached retina and one fight in 5 yrs to fight hagler, I don't know any fighter today who is capable of pulling that off with such considerable risk. give credit where credit is due.
    "Very few people really understand what it means to be a fighter. I hate it when I hear someone say, 'That fighter doesn't have guts. I hate that, I don't care if you're a world champion six times over or a four-round fighter, to step inside that ring, you have to have guts" Oscar De La Hoya

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by chamiley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Leonard has always been one of boxings most overrated fighters. I think Mayweather beats him on points.
    olympic gold medalist, beating 3 legends (Duran, Hearns and Hagler) and a number of tough opponents ( Benitez, Ayub Kalule, Davey Moore). 6 championship in 6 weight classes.

    I fail to comprehend which aspect of his career was overrated.
    6 championships in 6 weight classes? Stupid comments like that is why he's overrated. You actually count the Hagler so-called victory? Or the two titles he gained by beating that paper champion Donny Lalaonde? Since when is beating Lalonde good enough for two titles? Unless they were manufactured titles.
    did u just start watching boxing, coz the paper champion thing is just soo 90s. with so many alphabet titles, almost everyone is a paper champion unless you are the undisputed champion. Heck 2 of floyds belts came from beating paper champions so why do we acknowledge him as a 3 weight champion. he beat gatti for the WBC title when Ricky hatton was the recognized champion and how he became the IBF welterweight champion is the most bizzare championship claim ever in history of boxing. so with all this paper champion talk half the fighters today shouldn't even be acknowledged as champions and legends like roy jones would not have the title heavyweight champion of the world on their resume. when you fight in weight classes above your natural ones, you are giving away many of your advantages (such as speed, power, reach and size) and what carries you is your skill and will coz the bigger guyz can take your punch better and hit a lot harder, therefore any alright fighter has a good chance to beat you thats is why not every fighter can jump weight class. Morales who is one ofmy favorite fighter couldn't cope with it and got wiped out by Raheem, ppl will say that raheem's style was the factor yes it was but morales fought slick boxers b4 and dominated them. Leonard had talent and fought and beat the best of his era. he never got dominated in his prime, the first duran fight was also very close. I like hagler arguably the best middleweight ever but he never left his domain (middleweight division). sugar ray at least moved up for bigger challenges. People always say there is no way that hagler lost that fight, I believe HAgler didn't dominate to warrant that comment. He gave away the early rounds to leonard, and some of the later rounds were close the fight could have gone either way. Also people forget that Hagler was the #1 P4P fighter in the world at that time and leonard was coming with a detached retina and one fight in 5 yrs to fight hagler, I don't know any fighter today who is capable of pulling that off with such considerable risk. give credit where credit is due.
    Clicked you mate, theres no way Leonard was overated, he was one of the best welterweights ever, top couple, floyd would be lucky to make it into the top 20 atm.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    As far as the article goes I don't think you can compare there careers yet. Sugar Ray is done and retired and PBF is still going. Now lets say PBF fights the likes of Margarito, Hatton, Oscar, Cotto, and maybe even Mosley and beats them all. Now I would have to say is resume would pretty damn good then, maybe even just as good as Leonards. I don't think just because Sugar Ray beat Hearns and everyone back then that you can say he would destoy PBF. Styles make fights. I'm not saying Sugar Ray wouldn't win but honestly I think it would have been a really interesting fight. I don't think either one would have blown each other out.

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    Default Re: Mayweather vs Sugar Ray Leonard!!!

    As soon as Mayweather fights an elite boxer then you can ask that question. 1 & 1 with Castillo aint going to cut it and that ancient fight with a relatively mentally ill Corralles wont cut it either.

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