No one can deny his skills but he has no motivation to lose weight and get properly fitOriginally Posted by Starr
needs to do roadwork
I thought Freddie Roach was one of the best trainers but he let Toney get into the ring like that against Rahman
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No one can deny his skills but he has no motivation to lose weight and get properly fitOriginally Posted by Starr
needs to do roadwork
I thought Freddie Roach was one of the best trainers but he let Toney get into the ring like that against Rahman
This fight won't materialize. I really don't think that Toney wants any part of this. It's just not a good style match up for him.Originally Posted by Hulk
But if they were to fight, Wlad would take about 3or 4 rounds to really find the target. Then once he does he's going to tee-off on Toney. I don't think that Toney has taken those kind of shots before.
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And Brad is right, hence the post has been modifiedOriginally Posted by Starr
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Wlad will not fight Toney...what the fuck has Toney done to earn a shot at Wlad?
Wlad will fight either the winner of Brock-T. Ibrigamov or the winner of Ruiz-S. Ibrigamov.
More than likely Calvin and Sultan....those are the guys he would gain the most for beating...though I would pay money to see him beat the spare tireS off of James Toney
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I actually want to see this. I think if Toney actually comes to the fight in shape and has prepared correctly I think he might have a change. Because in the past when he's in shape he's a hellava good fighter. But on the flip side if he doesn't then Wlad is going to walk all over him. I just want to see if Toneys chin is as good as he thinks it is.
who are you guys kidding. Toney would get KOED. Kltichko is a world class fighter. the last worldclass fighter toney got into the ring with, he was schooled. and that fighter was Jones. Wladimir is bigger and stronger than Jones. He has a longer reach than Jones. And with Emmanuel training him, no way Klitchko would let Toney in close where he likes to be. Vitaly would jab Toney's head off then KO him in round 8.
He can come in weighing anywhere from 200 to 450 he won't beat Wlad....not on a train, not on a plane, not with a fox, not in a box, etc.Originally Posted by Hulk
Toney fans must be fucking crazy! Is he a power puncher? Does he apply hard pressure for 12 rounds? Can he take Wlad's shots?
We all know what beats Wlad and James Toney has NOTHING that can beat Wlad
I agree with you Lyle, what has Toney none to deserve the fight with Wlad...besides getting a gift draw with Rahman, but it don't matter because Wlad's gonna be the first to stop Toney.Originally Posted by Lyle
I could give a shat about Tony earning a shot, I just wanna see this fuckin circus of a boxing match, it'll be great - David vs Goliath!
well...they're both goliath in reality
Does Toney have what it takes? HELL YES, but it depends how bad he wants it and how he trains! Toney can win or go all 12 rounds, but he has to be in shape & slick to beat Wlad
I think Wlad right now is just at the top of his game and would be too much for Toney, who's on the decline. Even if he wasn't on the decline, Wlad is too skilled of a big man who's only weakness, his chin, won't be exposed by Toney, who hasn't really brought any serious power with him to heavyweight. I do think Toney's tougher than Byrd and would last longer, possibly the distance, but would lose almost every round in doing so. He's just too small for Wlad.
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Agreed, if he does his heavy career stops there and thenOriginally Posted by mucho testosterone
Roach is a great trainer if only his fighters listen and trusts him. Maybe Toney's just good that's why he box. Michael Moorer who Roach trained himself did not really like boxing; He was just good at it. Maybe the same case for Toney(Now)Originally Posted by LarryB
I'd like for Calvin Brock to get 2 more top fights then go for Wlad
CC just because its been a while.Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
I still think that Wlad will beat just about anyone in the division right now including Brock.
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