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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    He has one win, which would even put him on any sort of HOF level... The one over Quartey. Damn good win for a very young guy, the hype was massive after that..He maybe could have done alot more if he handed fought Trinidad right away, as he still showed alot of potential even in that fight he was looking to overtake Tito at one point.. but that fight took a hell of alot out of him, as the case with almost anyone who has lost to Tito... and DLH finished him off.. Definetly not HOf.
    His one big win over Quartey was a close fight. And it came after Quartey had been idle for over a year. If not for the ring rust, I think Quartey beats him.

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nope.

    He can't be a HOF'er if you falter every time you step up...& he has.
    that may be true, but he never ducked anyone.
    Vagras went after one huge challenge after another, the guy is a warrior
    So what...neither did Gatti...& he don't deserve to be there either...but there's been talk of it...the HOF is lowering it's standards IWHO.
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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    if they are going to put people like vargas into the hall of fame they might as well put in the following


    ronald mcdonald
    buster douglas
    zab judah
    the wiggles
    mr whippy
    jesse brinkly
    spice girls
    gary coleman

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    the answer is... NO.
    The question is: What part of NO is not understood?
    Small is the number of them that see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    His opposition was pretty good

    Luis Ramon Campas
    Raul Marquez
    Winky Wright
    Ike Quartey
    Javier Castillejo


    He might not be a HOF, but he wasn't far off

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    if they are going to put people like vargas into the hall of fame they might as well put in the following


    ronald mcdonald
    buster douglas
    zab judah
    the wiggles
    mr whippy
    jesse brinkly
    spice girls
    gary coleman
    Sc for this lame ass attempt at a joke

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    lol.


    plod plod u go mr demise.

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nope.

    He can't be a HOF'er if you falter every time you step up...& he has.
    that may be true, but he never ducked anyone.
    Vagras went after one huge challenge after another, the guy is a warrior
    So what...neither did Gatti...& he don't deserve to be there either...but there's been talk of it...the HOF is lowering it's standards IWHO.
    Gatti should get in for contributions to the sport imo. He should get in on the Boom Boom Mancini clause (even though Mancini was a more talented fighter and actually held a legit title)

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Game
    In my opinion,noooooooo way! I mean,the standards of what is a hall of famer inevitably dropped for this generation but even in that case,I just don't think he has done enough to justify it.
    no way...steroids is an automatic disqualification..
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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by The Game
    In my opinion,noooooooo way! I mean,the standards of what is a hall of famer inevitably dropped for this generation but even in that case,I just don't think he has done enough to justify it.
    no way...steroids is an automatic disqualification..
    Yeah I'm sure he lost the respect of a lot of voters with that.

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nope.

    He can't be a HOF'er if you falter every time you step up...& he has.
    that may be true, but he never ducked anyone.
    Vagras went after one huge challenge after another, the guy is a warrior
    So what...neither did Gatti...& he don't deserve to be there either...but there's been talk of it...the HOF is lowering it's standards IWHO.
    Gatti should get in for contributions to the sport imo. He should get in on the Boom Boom Mancini clause (even though Mancini was a more talented fighter and actually held a legit title)
    I guess I'm just a bit too hard on Gatti...but he's just an overratted version of Vargas to me. Gatti, IWHO, is just a glorified club fighter.

    Who has Gatti beaten of merit? Ward? An old Leija? Dorin?

    All names followed by question marks. Gatti falls under the gun just like Vargas.
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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nope.

    He can't be a HOF'er if you falter every time you step up...& he has.
    that may be true, but he never ducked anyone.
    Vagras went after one huge challenge after another, the guy is a warrior
    So what...neither did Gatti...& he don't deserve to be there either...but there's been talk of it...the HOF is lowering it's standards IWHO.
    Gatti should get in for contributions to the sport imo. He should get in on the Boom Boom Mancini clause (even though Mancini was a more talented fighter and actually held a legit title)
    I guess I'm just a bit too hard on Gatti...but he's just an overratted version of Vargas to me. Gatti, IWHO, is just a glorified club fighter.

    Who has Gatti beaten of merit? Ward? An old Leija? Dorin?

    All names followed by question marks. Gatti falls under the gun just like Vargas.
    It's not a matter of who he's beat, it''s the fashion in which he did it imo. He brought a lot of people to the sport. I can definitely see why people would say he isn't one though, I just think that he is to memorable of a fighter to leave out of the hall. I don't think the same of Vargas.

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Nope.

    He can't be a HOF'er if you falter every time you step up...& he has.
    that may be true, but he never ducked anyone.
    Vagras went after one huge challenge after another, the guy is a warrior
    So what...neither did Gatti...& he don't deserve to be there either...but there's been talk of it...the HOF is lowering it's standards IWHO.
    Gatti should get in for contributions to the sport imo. He should get in on the Boom Boom Mancini clause (even though Mancini was a more talented fighter and actually held a legit title)
    I guess I'm just a bit too hard on Gatti...but he's just an overratted version of Vargas to me. Gatti, IWHO, is just a glorified club fighter.

    Who has Gatti beaten of merit? Ward? An old Leija? Dorin?

    All names followed by question marks. Gatti falls under the gun just like Vargas.
    It's not a matter of who he's beat, it''s the fashion in which he did it imo. He brought a lot of people to the sport. I can definitely see why people would say he isn't one though, I just think that he is to memorable of a fighter to leave out of the hall. I don't think the same of Vargas.
    I just think that it's a smudge on the other fighters out there.

    Gatti never beat "the man" so to speak & I personally think that the way that he's lost speaks a lot more than the way that he's won.

    He slugged it out & got bloody to win in his memorable wins...but he got hammered & beat to a bloody pulp in his memorable losses.

    It's just how you look at it I guess.

    I think that the new improved Gatti aint that great...& I know I'll catch some hate over that...but he just don't do jack for me.

    He's fun to watch when he's winning...but he's horrible to watch when he's losing...because he really REALLY takes a beatdown.
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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    He has one win, which would even put him on any sort of HOF level... The one over Quartey. Damn good win for a very young guy, the hype was massive after that..He maybe could have done alot more if he handed fought Trinidad right away, as he still showed alot of potential even in that fight he was looking to overtake Tito at one point.. but that fight took a hell of alot out of him, as the case with almost anyone who has lost to Tito... and DLH finished him off.. Definetly not HOf.
    He may very well have beaten Tito, had Tito not hit him square in the nuts after bein knocked down. Sneaky lil bastard.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Is Fernando Vargas a Hall of Famer?

    Answer. No

    Has not done enough.

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