Veit beats Brahmer...that does some shifting at 168lbs...whachuthink?

[Purist]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

[Wacko3205]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

Whatcha mean?

Veit aint that bad of a fighter...he just go smoked by Joe.

[Violent Demise]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

[amat]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.

[amat]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

[Violent Demise]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

That's cuz most were either past there primes (Brewer, Mitchell, Eubanks) or just plain sucked (Veit, Pudwill, Ashira, Mkrtchian, McIntyre, Salem). Damn, now that I think about it. Calzaghe fought alot of garbage fighters

[Purist]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.

The difficulty he won, if that was Joe it would have been a first round knockout

[Violent Demise]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.

[p4pking]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.

[amat]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.

They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.

[amat]

haha all these Calzaghe "opponents' are getting exposed all of a sudden

Starr....wtf are you talking about? Veit WON. He wasn't exposed he WON. If anyone exposed Veit it was Calzaghe himself. Where is your point? He WON the fight.

The difficulty he won, if that was Joe it would have been a first round knockout

Are you being sarcastic?

[bigragu]

Veit is not a factor in the division. He had his chance twice and blew them

true...and I think the main person in the division needs to unify it ... go JOE C....

[Violent Demise]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.

They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.

Now, now you said he was the best German SMW ever, let's not back track. He might not be a total bum, but since he lost to Veit he's clearly not that good. Much less great.

[Violent Demise]

Veit is not a factor in the division. He had his chance twice and blew them

true...and I think the main person in the division needs to unify it ... go JOE C....

Cc for seeing the truth

[amat]

He is a factor, he got his two chances against the best of the bunch and came up short, he cant beat Calzaghe, but he can beat and has beat alot of decent fighters.

What decent name fighter did he beat? I think Kessler knocks him out, Beyer out boxes him, Green murders him and even Mundine would punk him in a points win. Veit is not a factor.

Sven Ottke would be the best German SMW ever.
That's what you think

The fact is he just beat someone who was being regarded as the best German SMW ever and a powerful southpaw. He beat a guy whom he was a 4:1 underdog against yet people attack him. I don't get it.

He beat the best German Super Middleweight ever, huh. Yeah, that really means alot. Hall of Fame here he comes.

They said he had the potential to be one. He still does. He isn't a bum.

Now, now you said he was the best German SMW ever, let's not back track. He might not be a total bum, but since he lost to Veit he's clearly not that good. Much less great.

Well it was a mistype, and I didn't say he was the greatest, I said he was being regarded as the greatest. And Veit's only 2 losses have come at the hands of Calzaghe, the division's best, I don't see how you could hold that against him. Will he ever be champ? No I don't think so. Could he possibly beat a top 5 fighter? Absolutely. I would give him a chance against Kessler, Lacy and Beyer.