IM LOSING MORE BRAINCELLS THEN IF I WERE DRINKING GAS, READING THIS JIMMY GUY'S THREADS
IM LOSING MORE BRAINCELLS THEN IF I WERE DRINKING GAS, READING THIS JIMMY GUY'S THREADS
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"There's nothing special about him." -Sergiy Dzinziruk
For the same reason as Trevor Berbwick aint ranked above Muhammad AliOriginally Posted by kegs06
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God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
Great fighters stand out, from the turn of the century we have had Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and as much as I hate to say it Lewis.
Those are the obvious tops but what order they go in can be interprated anyway.
Frazier and Foreman are there more because of Ali than their own merits, Frazier more so, Foreman had a relatively successfull comeback and became the oldest ever champ.
Wasn't Max Baer in his prime and champion against Braddock whereas Ali came off losing the title to Larry Holmes via retiring in 11th rd??Originally Posted by BIG H
Thats not the reason I was referring to!!Originally Posted by kegs06
Its about career's and not 1 fight.
Oliver McCall beat a near prime Lennox Lewis for example. When you rank greatness (at least imo) its not necessarily who beat or could beat another fighter on any given night - it's about Longjevity, career success, victims and many other factors.
Max Baer had a better career then Jimmy Braddock
God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I'll say it again, God is a concept, By which we can measure, Our pain, I don't believe in magic, I don't believe in I-ching, I don't believe in bible, I don't believe in tarot, I don't believe in Hitler, I don't believe in Jesus, I don't believe in Kennedy, I don't believe in Buddha, I don't believe in mantra, I don't believe in Gita, I don't believe in yoga, I don't believe in kings, I don't believe in Elvis, I don't believe in Zimmerman, I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me!!
Well said I couldn't agree more.Originally Posted by ross
Your right man i was just inspired after watching the movie. LOLOriginally Posted by BIG H
Originally Posted by raleights
Oh shit, he can see me
Louis was a true legend, his influence goes beyond boxing, and on top of all that, he was virtually unbeatable for 10 years (1937-47), no other Heavyweight can hand on heart say that.Originally Posted by raleights
Holyfield may of lost the Bowe series 2/1, but his overall career was far better than Bowe. He met virtually everyone that mattered in the 90s, and the only person he did not beat was Lewis, and he was arguable 9 years past his best by then.
Misquoting me you sum bich!
But in terms of if they fought each other, do you think Louis could compete with guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Tyson?
It sounds odd but I think Louis would have more success with the best of the bunch, Ali.
Ali struggled with a simple jab, the other fighters would overpower him
I see where you are comming from, but The thread is for the Greatest, not the best.Originally Posted by raleights
The Best, IMO goes:
5: The Tyson who beat Biggs
4: The Douglas who beat Tyson
3: The Holyfield who beat Bowe in fight two
2: The Lewis who beat Tua
1: The Bowe who beat Holyfield in fight one
ali should be higher on the chart and where is joe frazier and lennox lewis ?
1.Jack Johnson
2.Ali
3.Louis
4.Foreman
5.Evander
6. Holmes
7.Lewis
8.Frazier
9. Marciano
10. Tyson
honorable mention: Dempsey, Tunney, Charles, Walcott, Bowe, Liston, Patterson, Norton, Vitali,
Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson
he might have been a crack head but he sure was a good boxerOriginally Posted by swiss
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I'm still wondering how Golota even touched that list.
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