Yeah I sort of agree, he's fought some respectable compition but has never really fought the top 2 or 3 guys in his division.Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Yeah I sort of agree, he's fought some respectable compition but has never really fought the top 2 or 3 guys in his division.Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Fighting and beating the shat out of Ishe would prove nothing,the Winky fight is at 158 and an Ouma fight would be@154 but Arum said he wants Tony to stay@147. I'll be honest,I want Tony to fight these guys,anyone else and I would be dissappointed:
Quintana
Collazo
Winner of Clotteys next fight(most likely fight to happen and peeps,Clottey was beating Baldoimr,had points deducted,was still ahead and then DQ'ed)
Those are the names to beat,they are all hungry,dangerous fighters.
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I'll agree with you on all those guys, but Ishe is in the same league as these guys.Originally Posted by The Game
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All of these fighters were virtual unknowns a couple months ago Game. It only takes one fight for a fighter to suddenly become the next big thing. As galaxy says Ishe is on the same level as these guys. His appearance on the Contender has dented his credibility but if you've ever seen the guy fight he's a very slick, very solid fighter.Originally Posted by The Game
He cruised past David Estrada who then went on to challenge Shane Mosely for a world title and gave Kermit Cintron fits for 9 rounds or so. He handled Bonsante with greater ease than Allan Green did last week, ok so he doesn't have the punching power of the much bigger supermiddleweight star but his defense is top notch.
I think he's certainly capable of mixing it with the likes of Margarito and Cintron etc. Good fighter, just an arrogant gobshite with it.
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Not really,he still hasn't done anything to warrant a shot at Margarito,all the names I mentioned have done far more.PLus Collazo was no "virtuual unknown",he beat Rivera in a great great fight for the 147 title...
Smith ain't ready. He would end up just like the other two prospects Margarito crushed, Hercules Kyvelos and Kermit Cintron. Winky would probably outbox Margarito to a UD. The Ouma fight would be very exciting though. I dunno who would win. Margarito would have to start fast and hurt Ouma early. Or keep him at the end of his punches all night. Cus he can't let Ouma get in close and throw 100 punches a round.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
Sorry bro didn't realize you had already mentioned this and have started a similar threadOriginally Posted by amat
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I suppose you think Lujan had done enough to warrant a shot at Mararito? I think you don't want Margarito to fight Smith because he'll lose his title to someone you've been dogging!Originally Posted by The Game
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No,but at least Lujan was ranked by Ring magazine at number 10(that's something at least?!).And don't be silly,I'm not afraid for Tony to fight anyone because I don't think anyone canbeat him@147,simple as that.Sure there are guys that can give him tough fights but I only see one outcome,a Toni win.
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Dude tony is a brawler and slower than gatti...what do you think mayweather would do to him?Originally Posted by The Game
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Margarito is a proper welter, Gatti is not.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
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Eric Regan & Badi Ajamu were also ranked #10 by the ring & those guys are crap. Smith would have been rated a long time ago had he not gone on that crap contender show!Originally Posted by The Game
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Winky-Margarito doesn't really interest me, Winky would shut him down easily IMO.
Ishe's got some talent and looked pretty good against Estrada but then looked like S*** against Randall Bailey and has been pretty inactive. I'd have to go with Margarito in that one.
Margarito-Ouma would be fun and I'd really like it if Ouma would move down to 147 if he could make it cause he's such a small jr middle. Boxrec has him fighting Sechew Powell next though, although I haven't heard anything else about that.
You believe Arum? So he offered 4 million to Winky because he wanted Margarito to stay at 147 because he KNEW that Winky wouldn't take that. But he offers 8 million to Floyd and PBF declines so he doesn't think to offer the 8 million to Wright insteadOriginally Posted by The Game
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Arum is NEVER going to let Margarito fight any of those guys
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I think you might have a point there. Arum can make Margorito a bigger name by putting out just enough money to other fighters so they wont take it, but enough that the average fan will wonder why not. It makes it look like people are avoiding fighting his guy. This way it builds Margorito so he can get more money off of his fights but doesnt put him into any real fights where he could lose that mystique. Smart on Arums part.Originally Posted by Starr
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