Allan Green-Your views please

[bigragu]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biC5o-zCp...=Allan%20green

Jeff will have to be as good as this guy, with a little more pop



Very lucky the referee didnt step in, then it would have been Allan who?

wow!! that fight should have been stopped!!! I owe you a cc for that one........Lacy looks/ed like he hit harder than that guy so who knows.....it all depends on his mind......the talent is there....

[albsur2006]

Allan is one of the smoothest fighters I've seen. He looks very comfortable in the ring for only being 20-0. Taylor would be very stupid to face Green coming down from SMW in what is supposed to be a "rest" fight after facing Hopkins twice and Winky Wright. Even Hopkins took "less difficult" fights during his reign. IMO, Green KOs Taylor.

[JT Rock]

I think your giving Green way too much credit Smash, check out his last but one fight

He has decent power but as with many other punchers would appear to have a dodgy beard, gets a bit overexcited and for me doesnt make enough use of his natural advantages, his great jab didnt stop #1 dad getting in on him

He is a prospect and talk of Lacy Calzaghe or Taylor is too soon for me.

KO of Codrignton was brutal though

Seen it mate
His ex sparring partner i believe who put him on his a** only for Green to get up and Murder him.
I think you give Lacy too much credit mate.
He's sh*t,and you'll never see him fight to his potential (if you can call it that) after what Calzaghe did to him.
It's very hard to come back from such a bad beating and few ever do mate

Lacy will be fine True he did get by on his natural abilities Iron Chin and Helacious Power unfortunately that is all he needed in his fights....

Why are people so venemous to this kid is beyond me? He is classy, in a sport full of thugs, Pricks, assholes and Flaming Idiots he has class is Humble and a good sportsman...

You can look at that fight and say he got his ass kicked, AND THAT IS AN UNDISPUTABLE FACT!!!! You forget that despite the beating he never stopped coming forward 3 min a round for 12 rounds and never quit or looked for a way out...He has the heart of a lion to go along with his power and chin...You dont learn those qualities you are born with them, however you can learn to be more defensive minded and Box to set up his power shots

The Boxers that never quite comeback from beating like that are the ones that think to highly of themselves and are Cocky and believe their own hype Like that QUITTER AND BABY PRINCE NAZEEM HAMED...Jeff didnt do any of that was always humble and mature....

Back to the original thread... Lacy KO'S Green easily...Donny McCrary KTFO Green but Green was Eatin up that homecookin they were serving in his back yard My Mothers China Closet is Sturdier than Allen Green's chin.. Lacy by round 5 Lacy can take Green's shots, Green cant take Lacy's

[JT Rock]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biC5o-zCp...=Allan%20green

Jeff will have to be as good as this guy, with a little more pop



Very lucky the referee didnt step in, then it would have been Allan who?

The Ref should have stepped in Greens hand were down and he couldnt defen himself he was hung up on the ropes for a sec...The thing that was odd is when you watch the clip the Ref was so out of position and While green was getting pounded he wasnt ready to jump in...If Lacy caught him with a left hook like that and then Green was hung up on the ropes Lacy would of Knocked his head off....

As bad as Lacy's defense is this kids is worse...Not just cause he got caught bt McCrary but because, Well it just plain sux!!!

[Purist]

His non punching ex sparing partner

I dont and never did rate Lacy that highly, I picked him to beat Joe as I thought he had slipped enough, how wrong I was. For me Lacy has the two main ingredients to beat Green, chin and punch I think thats all it would take.

Green should stay at middle for now.

Any punch can be devastating if you don't keep your chin tucked.. Green did 2 things wrong, he dropped his right hand and he had his chin in the air. But I don't think it's adversity you should be looking at, but rather the fact that he got up, and dominated the rest of the fight.

[Purist]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biC5o-zCp...=Allan%20green

Jeff will have to be as good as this guy, with a little more pop



Very lucky the referee didnt step in, then it would have been Allan who?

The Ref should have stepped in Greens hand were down and he couldnt defen himself he was hung up on the ropes for a sec...The thing that was odd is when you watch the clip the Ref was so out of position and While green was getting pounded he wasnt ready to jump in...If Lacy caught him with a left hook like that and then Green was hung up on the ropes Lacy would of Knocked his head off....

As bad as Lacy's defense is this kids is worse...Not just cause he got caught bt McCrary but because, Well it just plain sux!!!

You haven't watched many Allan Green fights have you

He always except for his last 4 fights had been a slick boxing counter puncher that was very hard to hit, you don't remember the fight where Teddy Atlas called him 'too passive and too focused on his defense' so then thats when Allan decided to become more offensive.

[The_One77]

The only reason Taylor looked bad was because he fought the greatest middleweight of the last 10 years in Bernard Hopkins, hell even Roy Jones looked bad trying to beat him and Roy is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time.
From the video Allan Green has no chin, Jermain would crush this guy.....He probably looks good in other videos because he is fighting bums, Taylor looked good also.
It's common sense

[Purist]

The only reason Taylor looked bad was because he fought the greatest middleweight of the last 10 years in Bernard Hopkins, hell even Roy Jones looked bad trying to beat him and Roy is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time.
From the video Allan Green is no chin, Jermain would crush this guy.....He probably looks good in other videos because he is fighting bums, Taylor looked good also.
It's common sense

2 things

1) Green had his chin high in the air
2) he dropped his right hand

That's an equation for a knockdown no matter how good your chin is, if it's up in the air you're going to get hurt.

[JT Rock]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biC5o-zCp...=Allan%20green

Jeff will have to be as good as this guy, with a little more pop



Very lucky the referee didnt step in, then it would have been Allan who?

The Ref should have stepped in Greens hand were down and he couldnt defen himself he was hung up on the ropes for a sec...The thing that was odd is when you watch the clip the Ref was so out of position and While green was getting pounded he wasnt ready to jump in...If Lacy caught him with a left hook like that and then Green was hung up on the ropes Lacy would of Knocked his head off....

As bad as Lacy's defense is this kids is worse...Not just cause he got caught bt McCrary but because, Well it just plain sux!!!

You haven't watched many Allan Green fights have you

He always except for his last 4 fights had been a slick boxing counter puncher that was very hard to hit, you don't remember the fight where Teddy Atlas called him 'too passive and too focused on his defense' so then thats when Allan decided to become more offensive.

As much as Teddy is respected as a Trainer and broadcaster I doubt that is why Allan tweaked his style especially seeing that John David Jackson is Allan's trainer...Fighters do fall into bad habits and start to develop tendencies when they have tremendous athletic ability , they tend to get cocky and ego inflates which leads to important Fundamentals going out the window...Point being is it is way to early to throw this kid in the ring with Lacy, sure Lacy lost, but to the #1 Super Middle in the world for the past 8 years..Lacy will be a caged animal looking to make a statement in his comeback...

If the masses want to serve up Green as Lacy's comeback fight I will gladly have a few Brews and watch the brutal dismantling...Especially seeing a physicaly and mentally well rested Lacy will be showing up

[JT Rock]

The only reason Taylor looked bad was because he fought the greatest middleweight of the last 10 years in Bernard Hopkins, hell even Roy Jones looked bad trying to beat him and Roy is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time.
From the video Allan Green is no chin, Jermain would crush this guy.....He probably looks good in other videos because he is fighting bums, Taylor looked good also.
It's common sense

2 things

1) Green had his chin high in the air
2) he dropped his right hand

That's an equation for a knockdown no matter how good your chin is, if it's up in the air you're going to get hurt.

C'MON LARRY "STARR" MERCHANT we all know what the equation is for a KO, we have seen countless fighters take better and harder shots than that.Call it what it is Green is Chinny!!!! The only other fighter that would have gone down from that would of been Wlad Klit, and maybe Glass Joe from Mike Tysons Punch Out...

Instead of trying to purposely go against the grain see it for what it is worth...If the Kid is elusive and keeps people at bay it wont be as big of an issue, but the kid has never been in with a world class puncher, if a scrub can put him on his bottom than a puncher like Lacy will ruin the rest of his year...Maybe this fight will be good as to take all the so called "OVERHYPEDNESS" off of Jeff

[The_One77]

The only reason Taylor looked bad was because he fought the greatest middleweight of the last 10 years in Bernard Hopkins, hell even Roy Jones looked bad trying to beat him and Roy is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time.
From the video Allan Green is no chin, Jermain would crush this guy.....He probably looks good in other videos because he is fighting bums, Taylor looked good also.
It's common sense

2 things

1) Green had his chin high in the air
2) he dropped his right hand

That's an equation for a knockdown no matter how good your chin is, if it's up in the air you're going to get hurt.

it dosen't matter who you are, sooner or later you are gonna get caught flush....It's a question of whether you can take it and shake it off.
Donnie Mcary is a light fisted bum and still managed to almost knock him out, i'd hate to see Green take a punch on the chin by a much higher caliber of opponent.
Anyway, we'll see when he fights Lacy

[Kev]

IMO scored the most brutal KO of recent times and he has a wicked jab
Think this fella can go on to win a world title and im hearing the he could be lined up to fight Jermaine "The F*cking Fraud" Taylor!!!
I think green can KO Taylor.
I even think Froch could take Taylor
Any Green fans among us?

Hey smashup, not sure if I'd describe myself as a fan as he seems very arrogant but he's definitely a prospect.

I've watched his KO of Codrington a dozen times or more and it keeps getting better! The kid was out cold for 10 minutes!

That shows me that Green can really bang. Sure he got caught by McCrary but in fairness he managed to survive the round, when it seemed for a minute he wouldn't even make the count.

I don't think his chin will be much of an issue against Lacy, against McCrary he dropped his hands and got smoked just like Lewis against McCall and Rahman. No way he is dropping his guard like that against Lacy.

Plus the big difference between Green and Lewis was that Green showed a remarkable rate of recovery. I mean watching him get knocked down I thought he was unconscious but he recovered his senses in an instant, and held out the round even though there was well over a minute or so remaining.

He's a genuine, scary prospect at 168 lbs.

[Philly Keith]

Alan Green deserves his shot and I think he will beat Taylor. He did slip up against that old ironworker but that doesn't mean he has a suspect chin. He did get rocked but how many other guys would have pulled themselves off the deck to finish like he did? Not many so I say give him a shot. It is not like they will ever be able to make a fight between him and say Kelly Pavlik or some other up and comer anyway.

[thecolonel]

I am a bit biased as I used to box out of the same gym as Green, Lions Den owned by mikey Burnett(ufc middleweight champ years ago)


But I have seen green since his first pro fight. I knew from the min I saw him work in the ring(not to mention the times I was on the other side of that leather) that he had what it would take to go straight to the top. You guys can saw all you want but I seem him beating Lacy, taylor or Joe Cal. Lacy fight has fallen through. Joe cal is on the burner if something else doesnt come along for Joe. Taylor is always an option but not as hot as Joe right now. All I can say is the proof is in the pudding and I bet Allan gets a shot at someone big this next fight before 2007 and I think he will prove alot of you all wrong. Sports writers and many others love to hate this guy for some reason. I dont know why but he has the goods. He has brute strength(have watched him train on the weights) that many many fighters his size, if any at all, poses

[thecolonel]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=biC5o-zCp...=Allan%20green

Jeff will have to be as good as this guy, with a little more pop



Very lucky the referee didnt step in, then it would have been Allan who?

The Ref should have stepped in Greens hand were down and he couldnt defen himself he was hung up on the ropes for a sec...The thing that was odd is when you watch the clip the Ref was so out of position and While green was getting pounded he wasnt ready to jump in...If Lacy caught him with a left hook like that and then Green was hung up on the ropes Lacy would of Knocked his head off....

As bad as Lacy's defense is this kids is worse...Not just cause he got caught bt McCrary but because, Well it just plain sux!!!

You haven't watched many Allan Green fights have you

He always except for his last 4 fights had been a slick boxing counter puncher that was very hard to hit, you don't remember the fight where Teddy Atlas called him 'too passive and too focused on his defense' so then thats when Allan decided to become more offensive.

As much as Teddy is respected as a Trainer and broadcaster I doubt that is why Allan tweaked his style especially seeing that John David Jackson is Allan's trainer...

John David Jackson has only been in his corner since last fight.
Scotty Burnett was his trainer before that and before him it was Ronnie Warrior