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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    There does seem to be a pattern, moves up to 147 and fights two former 140 pounders that were both boxer movers, not physical fighters, moves up to 154 and fights a former 147 pounder thats also a boxer mover, not a physical fighter. I think he'll beat Spinks but he could get in trouble as he moves up if/when he fights a guy that has some skills and a real strength advantage

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.
    Excellent analysis,exactly what I was thinking CC, but the only thing I disagree with is that Spinks is in anyway a respectable fight,I totally disagree. This guy has fought once in 2 years and should be giving Karmazin a rematch(a match which I think Roman would win) and if PBF wants to fight PPV,at least make it an exciting fight!

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Mayweather is gonna get his a** kicked.

    Spinks UD

    You heard it here first!
    Well if you keep picking against him one of these days it might turn out right.

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Game
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.
    Excellent analysis,exactly what I was thinking CC, but the only thing I disagree with is that Spinks is in anyway a respectable fight,I totally disagree. This guy has fought once in 2 years and should be giving Karmazin a rematch(a match which I think Roman would win) and if PBF wants to fight PPV,at least make it an exciting fight!
    Agree with Oumafan's analysis, including Spinks being a respectable fight. But I also agree with you, The Game, that Spinks should be giving Karmazin a rematch (and I'd favor Karmazin if they got a ref that let them fight inside instead of breaking them as they got there). It was so ridiculous for Spinks and Cunningham to act like a rematch was small fish and that they didn't need to stoop so low--they were lucky to get the fight in the first place and it was a very close fight that Spinks would have lost if (a) they had a different ref that let them fight inside or (b) the fight lasted one or two more rounds.

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    CC SHZA,what the heck did Spinks do to get a shot...nothing.I think it was silly on Romans part to take the fight and he was even more stupid by not including a rematch clause but that shows what kind of fighter Spinks is..he knows Roman would beat on him second time around and also,it would have been good had Roman won because we all know PBF would not have fought him! Qucik question:is anyone going to shell out $49.95 on Spinks PBF(presuming that's who he is fighting#!)

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    There does seem to be a pattern, moves up to 147 and fights two former 140 pounders that were both boxer movers, not physical fighters, moves up to 154 and fights a former 147 pounder thats also a boxer mover, not a physical fighter. I think he'll beat Spinks but he could get in trouble as he moves up if/when he fights a guy that has some skills and a real strength advantage

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.

    cc for the well thought out and accurate post.

    heres the thing with floyds race to jump weight divisions (im like a broken record to some)

    for a long time, floyd has been saying that he wanted to do something that no other fighter in the history of the sport has ever done by becoming the first fighter in the history of the sport to win world titles in 5 different weight classes by the time he was 30, he turns 30 on february 24th of 07 so time is running out.

    it will be an impressive feat if he can do this, and there is no doubt in my mind that spinks is a respectable fighter, and is by no means a walk in the park.

    not to mention, that its a fight where floyd can jump into 154 without having to worry about adjusting to his opponents power too much being that spinks has very little
    but the fact is..............cory spinks can flat out box, and is about as slick as they come

    im looking forward to this (obviously) its just too bad that theyre talking about it being at the mgm (nice venue, but its DAMN expensive to see a fight there)

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by shza
    I gotta say, I think this is a tougher, better fight than vs. Baldomir, and no less legit. Baldomir beat an undertrained and even-more-unfocused-than-usual Zab Judah, and then a totally shot C-level Arturo Gatti. Floyd is about three times as fast as Baldomir and I think most people agree that--while he wouldn't KO Baldomir (or even knock him down), he'd probably win every single round of that fight. The main reason people seemed to be calling for that fight was because Baldomir "deserved" it, for being the linear, true WW champ. But even once Baldomir won the title, no one wanted PBF to fight him. RAther, it wasn't until Baldomir beat Gatti that people wanted a Floyd fight--which makes no sense to me at all. How beating Arturo Gatti--who's lost like half of his last 15 fights--legitimizes anyone (especially someone who is already the division champ) at this stage is beyond me.

    I'm not saying that Spinks is the best fight out there, but he's at least got the speed and technique to give Floyd some trouble for the first 5 rounds or so. I don't see Baldomir winning a single round.

    I would rather see Floyd fight Hatton or Margarito, if for no other reason than to shut people up.
    Nicely put and I agree CC. Still I dont have much interest in either PBF vs. Baldomir or Spinks..

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    There does seem to be a pattern, moves up to 147 and fights two former 140 pounders that were both boxer movers, not physical fighters, moves up to 154 and fights a former 147 pounder thats also a boxer mover, not a physical fighter. I think he'll beat Spinks but he could get in trouble as he moves up if/when he fights a guy that has some skills and a real strength advantage

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.

    cc for the well thought out and accurate post.

    heres the thing with floyds race to jump weight divisions (im like a broken record to some)

    for a long time, floyd has been saying that he wanted to do something that no other fighter in the history of the sport has ever done by becoming the first fighter in the history of the sport to win world titles in 5 different weight classes by the time he was 30, he turns 30 on february 24th of 07 so time is running out.

    it will be an impressive feat if he can do this, and there is no doubt in my mind that spinks is a respectable fighter, and is by no means a walk in the park.

    not to mention, that its a fight where floyd can jump into 154 without having to worry about adjusting to his opponents power too much being that spinks has very little
    but the fact is..............cory spinks can flat out box, and is about as slick as they come

    im looking forward to this (obviously) its just too bad that theyre talking about it being at the mgm (nice venue, but its DAMN expensive to see a fight there)
    agreed...

    I'd be happy with Baldi or Spinks either fight stands to be a decent scrap, for something of value as well.. its about time Floyd.

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    This will be an easy win for Floyd, I would have preferred to see him up against Baldomir but this fight seems to set up a boyt with DLH nicely, which is one of two fighters I really wanna see Floyd in against. The other being Mosley. The best thing Spinks has coming into this fight is his name & the fact that he is a former world welterweight champion. But fact here is Spinks ain't gonna hear the final bell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samson3000
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Mayweather is gonna get his a** kicked.

    Spinks UD

    You heard it here first!
    I thought we were finished with the retarded predictions?
    Baldomir Vs Floyd is more of a fight and besides all fight fans want to see it

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    What's the rush?

    At 140 you could say that Hatton wasn't ready to fight him and Arum didn't want to put Cotto in there with him so it made more sense to move up to 147. That's fine, I can understand that.

    But at 147 he had the undisputed Champion willing to fight him, a guy with some credibility. Not to mention guys like Margariito and up and comers like Quintana and Williams that might have been ready in a year or two. I could to some extent understand skipping over 140 so fast, but I don't understand this, Baldomir made sense. Spinks is a good fighter but Baldomir made more sense.

    There does seem to be a pattern, moves up to 147 and fights two former 140 pounders that were both boxer movers, not physical fighters, moves up to 154 and fights a former 147 pounder thats also a boxer mover, not a physical fighter. I think he'll beat Spinks but he could get in trouble as he moves up if/when he fights a guy that has some skills and a real strength advantage

    Spinks is a good fighter, its not a disreputable choice, and it would be a solid win that I'd give floyd some credit for, but I just don't understand the rush to skip over weight divisions and I definitely don't understand the decision to skip over the undisputed champion at 147. Its just an odd move even if he thinks an Oscar fight could be in the cards, although I've never been convinced that fight will ever happen.
    Rush is because Floyd wants the 154 pound championship before he becomes 30.(he won't get it, NOT from Spinks)

    Quote Originally Posted by memojaras
    Quote Originally Posted by Samson3000
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Mayweather is gonna get his a** kicked.

    Spinks UD

    You heard it here first!
    I thought we were finished with the retarded predictions?
    Baldomir Vs Floyd is more of a fight and besides all fight fans want to see it
    Sure all the fight fans want to see Baldomir dominated by Floyd and lose every round and after the fight they'll say it was an easy stylistic fight for Floyd Mayweather Jr and that Baldomir only beat an undertrained Judah and a shot Gatti and Floyd will get no credit

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    Stop trying to act is if you want Floyd to get credit. He beat your favorite fighter Glass Judah and you hate him for it. Sorry, but he ain't losing, EVER. Deal with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImRipped
    Stop trying to act is if you want Floyd to get credit. He beat your favorite fighter Glass Judah and you hate him for it. Sorry, but he ain't losing, EVER. Deal with it
    I been a Floyd fan since the Olympics. And been a Judah fan since I watched him beat Ishe Smith in the amateurs. I dont hate either You better deal with Mayweather losing IF he fights Spinks. Call Judah glass jawed but Mayweather couldn't stop him or drop him at 147 and people think he's gonna stop Spinks at 154

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    Default Re: IBF Sanctions PBF-Spinks

    ; Sure you've been a fan of Floyd's since '96. That's why I guess you picked Sharmba Mitchell to beat him . Owned

    Good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImRipped
    ; Sure you've been a fan of Floyd's since '96. That's why I guess you picked Sharmba Mitchell to beat him . Owned

    Good night
    Yep. I've been a fan of Sharmba Mitchell's longer too. Say what you want but I picked Sharmba and he lost so be it, whats your point?

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