Paul Williams will never lose to a welterweight

[chamiley]

Thats what they said about Tommy Hearns too.

[OumaFan]

He's looked good against Walter Matthysse and an old, shot Sharmba Mitchell.

He looks good except for the bad defense part, and he's so big, but I need to see more than Matthysse and Mitchell before I go off the deep end about him. His fight 28 or 29 fights he was matched VERY VERY soft and he's only gradually picked it up lately.

[El Gamo]

Thread title totally over exaggerated. Even IF he beat Tony Margarito,guys like Quintana,Collazo,Clottey,Joel Julio(he was outboxed by Quintana,can still go to war),Floyd,Mosley all have a chance again,oh and Cintron.

[Wadeb_21]

I wouldn't say right now he could beat anyone at welter. I do believe he is the future though of that division if he stays. I'm hoping that Tony fights him next I would love to see that one. If Williams gets by Tony with ease which I"m highly doubting he will then maybe this kid is the realness, I guess time will tell. He just needs to keep fighting better oppents.

[killersheep]

I'm going to stick my neck out and jump on board with this statement,
Williams beats Julio, Quintana, Collazo, Cintron et al..........
He's just too big and fast for the division, yeah his defense is kinda non-existant, but the guy has a great chin and a friggin 82" reach at welter!! I will give this division to Williams (with the exception of PBF) until I am proven otherwise, i.e. him losing

[El Gamo]

I'm going to stick my neck out and jump on board with this statement,
Williams beats Julio, Quintana, Collazo, Cintron et al..........
He's just too big and fast for the division, yeah his defense is kinda non-existant, but the guy has a great chin and a friggin 82" reach at welter!! I will give this division to Williams (with the exception of PBF) until I am proven otherwise, i.e. him losing

He certainly has the potential but I think he will get caught and caught badly,imagine of a power puncher like Cintron had all the chances Mathysse or Mitchell had! It would be lights out! I'm not on the bandwagon yet but I have taken a liking to him as he reminds me of Tony alot!

[Galaxy]

At this point I think Floyd, Quintana, Margarito, Judah & Collazo all take that 0 of his record. With experience & improvement of his defense down the line who knows. But right now I think he's very beatable!

[El Gamo]

hE WOUL KTFO Judah!!! You're joking right,where does all this rating Judah come from? He chokes on the big stage,heck he chokes on the small stage!

[Lords Gym]

hE WOUL KTFO Judah!!! You're joking right,where does all this rating Judah come from? He chokes on the big stage,heck he chokes on the small stage!

I Agree Zudah would be snuffed inside 3 rounds. not only does Williams have advantages in height and reach, he also has advantages in determination factor and punch output, he fights extremely well on the inside for a tall fighter with a freakish 82 inch reach.. short fighters are really in troubles i believe. Judah would have to lunge all the time only to get caught with a hale of gunfire.

[Galaxy]

hE WOUL KTFO Judah!!! You're joking right,where does all this rating Judah come from? He chokes on the big stage,heck he chokes on the small stage!

Bro I think Judah would KO Margarito! Williams' biggest win so far is over a faded Mitchell who hit him enough times for me to have concerns. Judah was doing well against Mayweather early on who I rate as the best in the world right now. Judah & Williams sign to fight next & Judah wins by KO!!!

[Kev]

Ok I've only seen one Williams fight and that was against Sharmba Mitchell.

To be honest I found him exciting but I didn't see a world beater here.

Now I'm the furthest thing away from a Tony Margarito fan but I think Tony would just brutalise this kid. He was way too open, got caught flush by Sharmba 4 times in a row in round 2 or 3 and just would not get away with such a weak defense against a guy like Margarito.

He throws a lot of punches, but he doesn't look like a big puncher, certainly no Hearns. I think he will get outmuscled by the best at 147lb.

If this fight happens against Margarito, and it's a probability seeing as he's Tony's mandatory I would say Tony inside 8 or 9 rounds.

[Galaxy]

Ok I've only seen one Williams fight and that was against Sharmba Mitchell.

To be honest I found him exciting but I didn't see a world beater here.

Now I'm the furthest thing away from a Tony Margarito fan but I think Tony would just brutalise this kid. He was way too open, got caught flush by Sharmba 4 times in a row in round 2 or 3 and just would not get away with such a weak defense against a guy like Margarito.

He throws a lot of punches, but he doesn't look like a big puncher, certainly no Hearns. I think he will get outmuscled by the best at 147lb.

If this fight happens against Margarito, and it's a probability seeing as he's Tony's mandatory I would say Tony inside 8 or 9 rounds.

cc bro I agree with you, the win over Mitchell didn't prove sh*t but that Mitchell is shot. I love the way everyone seems to jump on the bandwagon. Sure Williams looks good but he showed nothing to me in the Mitchell bout to show he's a world beater. Quitana is the better fighter outta the two IMO.

[Lords Gym]

Ok I've only seen one Williams fight and that was against Sharmba Mitchell.

To be honest I found him exciting but I didn't see a world beater here.

Now I'm the furthest thing away from a Tony Margarito fan but I think Tony would just brutalise this kid. He was way too open, got caught flush by Sharmba 4 times in a row in round 2 or 3 and just would not get away with such a weak defense against a guy like Margarito.

He throws a lot of punches, but he doesn't look like a big puncher, certainly no Hearns. I think he will get outmuscled by the best at 147lb.

If this fight happens against Margarito, and it's a probability seeing as he's Tony's mandatory I would say Tony inside 8 or 9 rounds.

I agree. Margarito or even Cintron could give Williams some troubles. Tall fighters sometime get use to being so much bigger then their opposition, when they face someone their own height the deficiencies they have in defense come into play more.. some tall fighter developed bad habits in regards to hand position over the years from fighting steady dose of short fighters, all of a sudden they fight someone who can hit them from little bit further away and it can be problematic esp when you get use to a comfort distance that is not there anymore. ( i don't know i am translating my thoughts very well ? )

[El Gamo]

hE WOUL KTFO Judah!!! You're joking right,where does all this rating Judah come from? He chokes on the big stage,heck he chokes on the small stage!

Bro I think Judah would KO Margarito! Williams' biggest win so far is over a faded Mitchell who hit him enough times for me to have concerns. Judah was doing well against Mayweather early on who I rate as the best in the world right now. Judah & Williams sign to fight next & Judah wins by KO!!!

Judah Koing Margarito has no basis on fact,it's hope,fantasy. If Margarito can take Cintron's punches,I'm sure he could take Judah's,Judah's power is over rated and thats a silly statement.

[killersheep]

Ok I've only seen one Williams fight and that was against Sharmba Mitchell.

To be honest I found him exciting but I didn't see a world beater here.

Now I'm the furthest thing away from a Tony Margarito fan but I think Tony would just brutalise this kid. He was way too open, got caught flush by Sharmba 4 times in a row in round 2 or 3 and just would not get away with such a weak defense against a guy like Margarito.

He throws a lot of punches, but he doesn't look like a big puncher, certainly no Hearns. I think he will get outmuscled by the best at 147lb.

If this fight happens against Margarito, and it's a probability seeing as he's Tony's mandatory I would say Tony inside 8 or 9 rounds.

I agree. Margarito or even Cintron could give Williams some troubles. Tall fighters sometime get use to being so much bigger then their opposition, when they face someone their own height the deficiencies they have in defense come into play more.. some tall fighter developed bad habits in regards to hand position over the years from fighting steady dose of short fighters, all of a sudden they fight someone who can hit them from little bit further away and it can be problematic esp when you get use to a comfort distance that is not there anymore. ( i don't know i am translating my thoughts very well ? )

But he is still 2" taller than both of those guys and has a 9" reach over Margarito and 10" reach over Cintron, on top of which I don't think either of those guys are as fast or as slick as Sharmba (say what you will about him).

At this point I think Floyd, Quintana, Margarito, Judah & Collazo all take that 0 of his record. With experience & improvement of his defense down the line who knows. But right now I think he's very beatable!

Floyd - Could beat Williams, it would be a war though, I am assuming PBF is going to 154 next year one way or another

Quintana - Look really good against the way over-hyped Joel Julio, Williams style wouldn't allow him to pick and choose his punches though

Margarito - He would really have to be on his "A" game or he will get hammered all night long, and speaking of defense I haven't been too impressed with Tony's defense either.

Judah - You're kidding right? If you haven't noticed he has a glass jaw and no legs, being just fast is not enough anymore

Collazo - Definately doesn't have the power to put him away, that being said Williams takes it on the cards.