prime larry holmes vs prime tyson

[El Kabong]

.....that being said Foreman would beat the crap out of Holmes

[ICB]

.....that being said Foreman would beat the crap out of Holmes

depends if holmes could survive first 4 rounds

[BIG H]

I wonder how many of you that are so sure Holmes would win (and you BK!! ) would've seem this fight the same way had this thread been created in 1989

Coz if you can't honestly say that your opinion would have been the same, then you have been affected by time!!

And to answer my own question NOBODY in boxing would've picked prime Holmes to beat prime tyson if asked in 1989

[ICB]

well he got exposed thats why big h

[El Kabong]

Yes BigH because the only guys to do well vs Tyson pre 89 were BOXERS and not sluggers and the guys who whipped his ass were BOXERS (not counting Williams and McBride...and Holyfield was more of a brawler but he could box relatively well)

[ICB]

tony tucker gave tyson problems and im sorry mate this is were we disagree someone with footwork like holmes had in hes prime skills he had and jab i think he beats tyson

[Gandalf]

I wonder how many of you that are so sure Holmes would win (and you BK!! ) would've seem this fight the same way had this thread been created in 1989

Coz if you can't honestly say that your opinion would have been the same, then you have been affected by time!!

And to answer my own question NOBODY in boxing would've picked prime Holmes to beat prime tyson if asked in 1989

Agree completely, pal

Its all Tyson revisionism IMO...Prime Tyson would maul Holmes...

No way his chin would tolerate such abuse....

[ICB]

i dont know what ur on about tyson wouldnt get close to maul holmes and holmes takes good punch and over hill 38 year old holmes didnt let tyson land clean punch until he got caught in 4th

[X]

Funny how everytime its Heavyweight X vs Prime Tyson people always say X will win.

Yeah, but I am pretty good !!

[Gandalf]

i dont know what ur on about tyson wouldnt get close to maul holmes and holmes takes good punch and over hill 38 year old holmes didnt let tyson land clean punch until he got caught in 4th

Prime Tyson takes him out. He would slip that jab and work athe body and just keep doing it. The chin would be there at some point....

Why do you not rate Tyson? You got the Lyle bug?

[SimonH]

I wonder how many of you that are so sure Holmes would win (and you BK!! ) would've seem this fight the same way had this thread been created in 1989

Coz if you can't honestly say that your opinion would have been the same, then you have been affected by time!!

And to answer my own question NOBODY in boxing would've picked prime Holmes to beat prime tyson if asked in 1989

Well of course, that is the beauty of hindsight; the more you learn about the fighter, the easier it his to judge him.

Tyson was awesome 86 to 88...

But post that, he failed to win fights he was losing, he failed to gain revenge for previous defeats and how he failed to win a fight as an underdog...

All things Holmes has done (if you call SpinksII as a Holmes win), all things Tyson failed at. And all tangables that need to be measured when drawing up an opinion on who would of won a prime Holmes verses prime Tyson fight.

[ICB]

i dont know what ur on about tyson wouldnt get close to maul holmes and holmes takes good punch and over hill 38 year old holmes didnt let tyson land clean punch until he got caught in 4th

Prime Tyson takes him out. He would slip that jab and work athe body and just keep doing it. The chin would be there at some point....

Why do you not rate Tyson? You got the Lyle bug?

nothing to do with me not rating him its to do with that i think prime holmes wins at beginning of 4th round holmes was dancing and pumping out jab tyson ate 6 jabs and that was overhill holmes

[Gandalf]

I wonder how many of you that are so sure Holmes would win (and you BK!! ) would've seem this fight the same way had this thread been created in 1989

Coz if you can't honestly say that your opinion would have been the same, then you have been affected by time!!

And to answer my own question NOBODY in boxing would've picked prime Holmes to beat prime tyson if asked in 1989

Well of course, that is the beauty of hindsight; the more you learn about the fighter, the easier it his to judge him.

Tyson was awesome 86 to 88...

But post that, he failed to win fights he was losing, he failed to gain revenge for previous defeats and how he failed to win a fight as an underdog...

All things Holmes has done (if you call SpinksII as a Holmes win), all things Tyson failed at. And all tangables that need to be measured when drawing up an opinion on who would of won a prime Holmes verses prime Tyson fight.

Thats the thing I have to disagree with though, Britkid....

Lets put Tyson of '88 against any other model of Tyson. The other model only has a punchers chance and will probably get a beating. This means prime Tyson was something special.

Prime Tyson has a chance against any of the greats in heavyweight history.

Lyle loses points by suggesting that even Dempsey could beat Tyson. Dempsey was too small. A silly matchup really. And as for Marciano....just silly...

[Gandalf]

i dont know what ur on about tyson wouldnt get close to maul holmes and holmes takes good punch and over hill 38 year old holmes didnt let tyson land clean punch until he got caught in 4th

Prime Tyson takes him out. He would slip that jab and work athe body and just keep doing it. The chin would be there at some point....

Why do you not rate Tyson? You got the Lyle bug?

nothing to do with me not rating him its to do with that i think prime holmes wins at beginning of 4th round holmes was dancing and pumping out jab tyson ate 6 jabs and that was overhill holmes

Who cares about eating a few jabs when the jab is the only defence youve got against the attack that WILL ensue?? Tyson would murder Holmes, post or in prime....

[ICB]

SHAME HE COULDNT MURDER HIM FIRST 3 ROUNDS WHEN HE WAS PAST IT