Margarito v Clottey confirmed for December 2.

[JT Rock]

I'm not being a smartass but I'm glad Arum finally let The Boogeyman comeout and play....Clottey should be a good test for him and see if he can progress to the Monster hype they are pitching to us

I personaly would of liked to see him take on Williams, but At least Margarito's finally getting his azz in the ring.............

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In my humble opinion,Clottey is a very very good fighter who was beating the shat out of current champ Baldo unitl he was dqed and had he not been,he would have won a wiiiiide UD. He is very skilled and although he never looked good in his last fight,his other performances would tell me he is a good fighter.

just to be dropped again, all of the following would beat Judah

Collazo
Quintana
Margarito
Cotto
Hatton

hatton would have no chance in hell at 147

cotto, maybe if he fought the perfect fight

collazo couldnt beat a small ricky hatton at 147, so i give him no chance at judah (zab would box circles around him)

quintana is too green (zab is seasoned)

and margarito doesnt want any part of judah, hes gonna fight clottey instead and hope that beating cintron AND clottey earns him a few million in a mega fight that will follow (he couldnt even beat daniel santos, who is more than willing to rematch margarito by coming back down to ww, or 154)

Silly points,Zab is seasoned.............................as seen by his low blow at Baldo at the touch up at the beginning of the fight or his ability to run after getting hit by a half decent puncher....

Cotto has to fight the perfect fight to beat Zab,that is probably the worst point I have seen.

Hatton would have no chance in hell,that's got to be a joke and I'm not even a big Hatton fan. Zab can't take pressure,Hatton is ALL ABOUT pressure whether it be holding or not.

Quintana is not green at all,he looked very wise and skillfull to avoid the big banging Julio for 12 rounds.

Margarito has offered to fight Judah numerous times,Judah said he would fight the winner of Cintron and Margarito(I posted the link myself),glass jaw v power punching machine,let me see who wins that.....

You're just defending Zab becuase Floyd fought a guy who had 3 losses in 6 fights.... and the point about Santos is ridiculous,if Margarito went up again to fight his stylistic nightmare, and won,what would it prove? 154 is not a matter of significance here,Tony is not going up, end of.

HAH, Margaritos "stylistic nightmare" was Santos... Yeah, what his style being that he was bigger than Toney and he could actually fight back?? And as for Judah vs Margarito, what's ridiculous is how you label it.... Glass jaw vs power punching machine.... Like that's all there is to it.. All you can even say about Tony is that he's a power punching machine... He is also a very poor boxer, he is slow, he has 0 defence, has never fought anyone fast or skilled, terrible foot work and foot speed... Zab doesn't have any of those flaws... Tony's only advantages would be chin and power. Tony will be exposed any time he ever steps up to the top level. If he actually fought where he belonged at 154 he couldn't beat anyone.

Your points go out of the window when you say if he actually fought where he belonged. What a pile of bollocks,Tony weights 147 with no problems,he has to beef up to 154......So B Hop should have fought at light heavyweight all this time?

Zab Judah can't take a punch,Margarito has been hit by way stronger fighters. Zab is super skilful,infintely more so than bALDOMIR,WHAT HAPPENED THERE? Zab is not skillfull enough to evade contact all the time,Margarito is effective at cutting off the ring. 0 defence,how may times did Cintron catch him? Slow? Faster than Baldo. Terrible footwork,fair enough and he can be sloppy at times but what is Zab going to do? He's not good enopugh to run all the way,he does not have the powert ot hurt Tony nor the chin,and he has 0000000 HEART AND DETERMINATION.

As for Santos,I've told you the same fooking thing over and over,most at ringside including Puerto Rican fans had Santos losing by 1,it was in his backyard and if he did not fight well,he would not get any big money matches(as he was told by is promoters) and he weight at least 175 pounds. Maargarito was also coming on strong,although I still feel had the fight continued,Tony would have won.

You wish they went out the window, then you wouldn't have to keep grabbing at straws.. MArgarito is effective at cutting off the ring, against BUMS... How many times did Cintron hit him, who care's he's a BUM... Faster than Baldo, he's one of the slowest fighters to ever compete at the top level at welter, so fine, sure he is.. MArgarito has been hit by "way stronger fighters" LIKE WHO?? 'You just said Cintron didn't even catch him, so obviously you couldn't have meant him?? Santos, is the only decent capable puncher other then that, and sure he was nailing Tony with bombs, except he's another bum. who cares if Tony was winning or would have won, he needed to dominate because santos is completely average... Sure Tony can make 147 and that's his weight, but he can EASILY make 154, he doesn't have to bulk up at all, he just can't cut it without a big size advantage over his opponent... Im not the one saying it's a clear cut fight either, that's you... Saying Tony will just destroy everyone because of blah blah blah.. For my money, Zab vs Tony is a total pick em, if Judah came in the shape he did to fight Mayweather, I think he would win, but you never know where he will be at on fight night, and that's why it's a pick em...