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    Default Re: Guzman vs Pac????

    Expect Morales to come back strong against Pacquiao. All you guys are acting like this is a tune-up! heheh I have a feeling that if Morales loses, he'll still soften Pac-man up for whoever fights him next.
    Morales is old: yes. Morales is past his prime: yes. But as long as he can still fight, he'll give anyone hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Guzman looked smart,fast strong and to be hoest,he looked as if he found the fight with Barrios easy. However,Pacquioa is on a whole different level and what does Guzman when do when the pace is heated up? I'll tell you 1 thing,if he tries to roll Manny,he will get KTFO. Right now,Pacmna by KO for sure. I have not seen Guzman's chin tested,nor how deep he willing to go and what happens if he breaks his hand? With Pacman,I know what I'm getting,fast,hard hitting,scratch that,super fast and P4P top 5 hard hitting,awesome chin,determination,stamina,a furious pace,wild at times but compensates aaaaaaaaaaaaaand becoming more varies,adding the right hand,ok jab and good lateral movement. Pac by ko for me.(and no,I'm not a Pac nuhugger!)
    But you're contradicting yourself sir, You say you haven't seen Guzman's chin tested but you're still adamant he'll get knocked out, My boy Floyd's Chin has never really been tested either but everyone knows he's number one , Technically Manny is not touching Guzman and he ain't beating him in speed either, Yes, Questions will need to be answered about Guzman in the fight but I've seen Manny get schooled before and it can happen again, In my opinion Guzman has everything Manny has and more, And you also haven't given any credit to Guzman's defensive skills either, Which reminds me of Winky's.

    But hey it's all about opinions so it's all good ,

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    It's not really a contradiction bro,I doubt his chin is better than Erik Morales and Pacman can tko Morales,MAB and drop JMM 3 times,then I'm sure he can dent Guzman. Guzman has excellent defensive skills,against a Barrios who just cannot punch straight,Pacquiao punches very straight and accurate and from a southpaw stance,that's alot of angles. The number 1 thing in favour of Pac is the pace and intensity,I don't think Guzman can match it and remember,Pac is no Barrios,if Pac landd all those body shots to Guzman,he would not be able to run anywhere a la Morales 2.

    Also,I noticed that Guzman loops his shot when in close at times,again,that would be bad versus Pacquiao. I'm not saying he has no chance at all but I think I need to see more, no way can I say he can beat Manny just by beating Barrios.





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    Default Re: Guzman vs Pac????

    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan
    Quote Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
    So what makes you so confident that Pac would prevail over Guzman Pacfan?, Come on put the bias to one side and name me one weakness in Guzman's arsenal that Pac could exploit?, Because as i've said Guzman out does him in the technical department and Pac's certainly not stronger, Faster, defensively astute as Guzman so are you judging the fight purely on Pac's willingness to come forward and his heart?, If so he'd only get schooled on the outside I'm sorry to say

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    Sorry about that, I was out for a while. Strange, I've gotten the Barrera-Juarez I fight figured out watching it just once, where no other seemed to have gotten. But here it seems as if we've been watching a completely different fight! I hate to admit but I guess all these people here can't be wrong, so I'll have to watch the fight again to reassess it. But sorry to say, it won't be coming any time soon as TV stations here usually don't show replays esp. the undercards, and as I live in a small coastal town here in the Philippines surrounded by coconut trees and rice fields on the other side, the best I can find in the local market are some bootleg copies of Pac's fights, popular movies and of course the usual xxx-rated vids. So in the meantime, I'll be reserving my judgment 'til then... By the way, you don't have to address me sir.
    I think I spoke too soon. I read the new thread 'barrios v guzmen,' where views there were (at least the first few ones) somewhat closer to mine here. So I'm standing by with my original view. But I do respect everyone's view here.
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    Default Re: Guzman vs Pac????

    that would be a good fight. guzman was pretty good in his fight against barrios. good idea this fight

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    Default Re: Guzman vs Pac????

    Of all the possible great fights in this division this is the one i'd most like to see

    Guzman has by far the better skills but would he be able to last with Pacs constant pressure?

    Its got great fight written all over it, just hope it happens.
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    Wow. People are really on Manny's jock. It is almost as if the outcome of his fight with Eric has already been decided. Manny, for all of his tremendous physical strength, is still far from being a complete boxer....no matter how badly many of you think otherwise. A fighter with great skills and ring smarts will give him a tremendous challenge. If Eric comes into their rematch physically fit and fights SMART....he CAN beat Manny (with Eric the problem is that he lets his pride sometimes make him fight a stupid fight). Just as if Barrera comes into their rematch fit and with a great fight plan. And Guzman is as good an athelete (if not better) than Manny and is also a great technical fighter. The key with Manny is to fight with controlled aggression. Not many fighters can just go in the ring and hope to out slug him from the beginning. You have to fight a smart technical fight mixed in with moments of exchanging. Easier said than done because of Manny's aggressive style....but very possible....especially for boxers of such talent like Barrera, Guzman, Marquez and even Morales. To say Manny is "on a completely different level" than these fighters is ridiculous.

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    THAT'S WHY Superfeather is my favorite division. You got a combination of legends, present top P4P guys and a very talented up and coming prospects. Hell if JMM decides to come up it would be more and more interesting. So one of the players dropped out last night in Barrios and Guzman raises his stocks very good. Now we have a clearer picture of who would give the most exciting battle of Superfeathers in 2007(pac-guzman). I know MAB-PAC is bound to happen but if Pac wins and Guzman continues on his roll it would be one hell of a fight. Hey, I almost forgot there is a guy named Valero listed in the Superfeatherweights man this is the best division in boxing.

    As for the question why Pac didnt face Guzman at 122 we are not really sure if there were ever talks about these 2. Pac moved up to challenge MAB at 126 as a Filipino we all knew that was Pac's dream match either win or lose he really would like to fight the best at that time. Though MAB was not his usual self that night, Pac did beat him and soundly so. At 122 Larios was the man then and I never even heard of Joan Guzman until he started to make noise the past few fights. So maybe it was never meant to be at 122 so here we are at 130 and these 2 fighters looks like it's the best weight for them to fight so may the best fighter wins.

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