Tarver disses Joe Calzaghe

[ICB]

It ain't much of a diss considering Calzaghe has faught mostly D-level fighters his whole career. In over 40 fights his only non D-level fights have been against Lacy, Brewer, Mitchell, Ried, Eubanks and I guess Shieka. Brewer, Mitchell and Eubanks were past there prime. They were C-level during there fights with Calzaghe. Shieka and Ried were in there prime, but they were barely B-level. And Joe struggled with both. Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten. That's one big name in over 40 fights! Damn. Now that I look at his resume, Calzcrappy is F****** overrated. No wonder he's gone back to fighting people like Sakio Bika.

he isnt crap is he dont u think ur going bit far ??

[md]

Tarver beating Calzaghe?

Joe beats Tarver. The same negative people will say "Tarver was washed up; past his prime".

Who does Joe Calzaghe have to fight? If there are B,C and D level fighters who are these A level fighters?

Can a fighter who is unbeaten in over 40 fights be crap? From that you can deduce two things.

A. Their not crap.

B. You still don't know how good they are.

[ICB]

Tarver beating Calzaghe?

Joe beats Tarver. The same negative people will say "Tarver was washed up; past his prime".

Who does Joe Calzaghe have to fight? If there are B,C and D level fighters who are these A level fighters?

Can a fighter who is unbeaten in over 40 fights be crap? From that you can deduce two things.

A. Their not crap.

B. You still don't know how good they are.

agreed well said

[Violent Demise]

It ain't much of a diss considering Calzaghe has faught mostly D-level fighters his whole career. In over 40 fights his only non D-level fights have been against Lacy, Brewer, Mitchell, Ried, Eubanks and I guess Shieka. Brewer, Mitchell and Eubanks were past there prime. They were C-level during there fights with Calzaghe. Shieka and Ried were in there prime, but they were barely B-level. And Joe struggled with both. Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten. That's one big name in over 40 fights! Damn. Now that I look at his resume, Calzcrappy is F****** overrated. No wonder he's gone back to fighting people like Sakio Bika.

he isnt crap is he dont u think ur going bit far ??

Maybe. Maybe not. It just seems that when it comes to big fights and Calzaghe, there always seems to be some excuse why they don't happen. The Lacy fight almost didn't happen because he got hurt in a fight against some bum he didn't even have to fight.

[md]

But the Lacy fight did happen. He was considered the best, he got beat, the next thing, he was never that good anyway.

Granted Calzaghe is injury prone. How come when a top boxer gets injured he doesn't fancy the fight. But when a top footballer gets injured he gets sympathy.

[Violent Demise]

But the Lacy fight did happen. He was considered the best, he got beat, the next thing, he was never that good anyway.

Granted Calzaghe is injury prone. How come when a top boxer gets injured he doesn't fancy the fight. But when a top footballer gets injured he gets sympathy.

Cuz football is a team sport, so that injured player has a replacement. In boxing it's just one on one. Foolish to compare.

[md]

Downhill skiing or mountain biking then. Both of these sports are inherently dangerous like boxing, but if the athletes are injured there's no big deal. Nobody says they've bottled it and looking for excuses.

[LBSCFC]

Cant see this fight ever happening. Why would Joe want to fight someone coming off a onesided loss. I think if they did fight Calzaghe would box rings round him. Another thing Calzaghe has never been beaten in 40 fights. Tarver has lost to men that Calzaghe would annihilate. Apart from Jones who else has Tarver beaten?

[md]

I agree. I think a match up with Clinton Woods is more likely.

[RHHatton]

Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten.

Lacy was A-Level all the way upto the first bell of his fight with calzaghe. Didnt hear many people calling lacy then!! Only when Joe destroyed him did people slag of Lacy.

same thing happened with Hatton, Kostya Tzsyu was a living legend and rick wouldnt last past 4-5 rounds but after hatton beat him into submission all he got was 'yeah but kostya is washed up and is past his best'

Its kinda funny when you think back actually, how people who dont want to admit they were wrong about something always change their minds so they dont have to admit it.

[ICB]

Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten.

Lacy was A-Level all the way upto the first bell of his fight with calzaghe. Didnt hear many people calling lacy then!! Only when Joe destroyed him did people slag of Lacy.

same thing happened with Hatton, Kostya Tzsyu was a living legend and rick wouldnt last past 4-5 rounds but after hatton beat him into submission all he got was 'yeah but kostya is washed up and is past his best'

Its kinda funny when you think back actually, how people who dont want to admit they were wrong about something always change their minds so they dont have to admit it.

well said and i totally agree

[Gandalf]

Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten.

Lacy was A-Level all the way upto the first bell of his fight with calzaghe. Didnt hear many people calling lacy then!! Only when Joe destroyed him did people slag of Lacy.

same thing happened with Hatton, Kostya Tzsyu was a living legend and rick wouldnt last past 4-5 rounds but after hatton beat him into submission all he got was 'yeah but kostya is washed up and is past his best'

Its kinda funny when you think back actually, how people who dont want to admit they were wrong about something always change their minds so they dont have to admit it.

Well said, CC

Revisionism on the part of the so called fans is something that bugs me too. There was only a vocal minority on this board backing Calzaghe to beat Lacy. Now many of those that were saying Lacy would win have completely revised their opinions of Lacy and thus diss Calzaghes achievments in the process.

The Lacy fight was seen as a HUGE risk for Calzaghe and many thought he would fall.

Boxing fans can indeed be a very fickle bunch....

[Fenster]

Funny thing is though, its a safe bet, If Calzaghe was American, the same boxing "fans" that constantly slag him off, would revere him like they do Hopkins.

[means2184]

to be as real as possible ......Jeff lacy would KO Tarver ,and Calzaghe would do no less than what B-hop did to Tarver ....

Antonio was a very good amature ...but he lacks percision punching for the most part (aside from that one night we will all never forget)

i even think he MAY be a shot fighter ...so i dont blame him for taking a rest,it will be nice to see him emerge as a test to somebody next year ,but at the sametime at 36 yrs old hes not gettin younger even if he is a young 36

[Violent Demise]

Lacy was the only elite name fighter (and he was never A-level) he beaten.

Lacy was A-Level all the way upto the first bell of his fight with calzaghe. Didnt hear many people calling lacy then!! Only when Joe destroyed him did people slag of Lacy.

same thing happened with Hatton, Kostya Tzsyu was a living legend and rick wouldnt last past 4-5 rounds but after hatton beat him into submission all he got was 'yeah but kostya is washed up and is past his best'

Its kinda funny when you think back actually, how people who dont want to admit they were wrong about something always change their minds so they dont have to admit it.

Maybe them other posters, but you'll never find a post of mine stating that Lacy was great and would destroy Calzaghe.